Not sure it's tribal John, surely tribal mentality is what was shown by
Millwall fans on Saturday. I think the sports have a lot to do with it,
both rugby codes you can generally stand in the middle of opposing fans,
in your club colours and say your bit and you'll get no trouble other than
the odd bit of verbal abuse - how it should be in other words.
Personally I want anyone in our house to do well at sport! Then Guiseley
to win the Unibond, Leeds Utd/Rhinos/Carnegie all to win their respective
leagues (Highly unlikely with the latter) and any other Leeds team to win
whatever they take part in!!!, Yorkshire to win the county championship
and any other sporting competition and finally England to win anything
global. With the exception of the cricket, in that order too.

> I think Rugby League is a very different proposition than other sports
> when rivalries are considered. At Grand Finals you get fans of all teams,
> in team colours, all supporting the game. OK, there are rivalries - for
> Leeds as a team then Saints and Bratfud, simply because they've been top
> of the pile of and on for some time. For the fans, I'd wager Hull are the
> real mob of 'dislikees', although they're on a par with St Helens (it all
> started with Tommy cheating c*** Martyn for me!!). The only grounds where
> this rivalry might ever cause an issue would be Saints and Hull. Hull are
> a different breed!
>
>   'Tis all getting a bit deep.
>
> To be honest, I have never really hated the rhinos in the same way that I
> dislike scum or bratfud shitty, dunno why as I have always thought that
> the
> supporting of RL teams is a bit more tribal than footie.
>
> Bulls and Rhinos does not compare to Leeds and Scum as it takes the
> rivalry
> across the county line and Yorks/lancs rivalry predates both sports.
> In the Grand Final I wanted Leeds to win because in order to sweeten the
> bitter pill I saw it as Yorks v Everyone Else.
>
> Or to look at it in a different way - Both teams play in White.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Leslie"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [LU] Mighty Whites/Bratfud Bulls
>
>> Interesting stuff from everyone, thanks for the replies. The logical
>> next
>> question I guess is, given that as far a I'm aware and from what I've
>> seen, Bulls fans generally hate The Whinos with a passion (ala Us and
>> Man
>> Utd), do you hate the Rhinos? I think most Bulls fans hate Leeds, the
>> old
>> geographical rivallry and obviously Bantams fans hate us for that exact
>> reason and for sporting reasons too. OR when the subject comes up do you
>> prefer to step out of that one and merely dislike the Rhinos? This is
>> the
>> bit I'd be interested in, given that the deep rooted 'hate' factor
>> (Although personally I think it's far too stong a word to use in sport
>> ...
>> except where Gary Neville is concerned of course ;-)) is generally
>> Bradford V Leeds, you cross the camps sports wise and therefore must
>> surely seperate that factor out and now have it purely on a per sport
>> basis?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 15
>>> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:32:34 +0100 (BST)
>>> From: "Tim Leslie"
>>> Subject: [LU] Question for Briggsy Lad ...
>>> To: [email protected]
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>>>
>>> Just clearing my mailbox and it's only just come to mind ... How come
>>> you
>>> support Bratfud Bulls and Leeds United? Not a dig, just interested.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Beers and Tears for Fears
>>>
>>> StigOfTheLeedsOnlyDump
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> Same for me Stig and a fairly simple story to explain why.
>>>
>>> First ever cup final I watched on the black and white goggle box (aged
>>> nearly 6) was Leeds v Liverpool in 1965. I picked the team in white as
>>> "my
>>> team" (not having a clue where either team was geographically) and have
>>> stuck with them ever since. Glad I didn't watch the previous season or
>>> I
>>> could've ended up supporting the 'ammers or Preston North End!!
>>>
>>> First ever rugby league game my dad took me to (aged nearly 7), was
>>> Bradford
>>> Northern v Wigan in the quarter final of the challenge cup in March
>>> 1966.
>>> Wigan won 15-6 and I had to sit on my dads shoulders for the entire
>>> game.
>>> My dad was a Dewsbury fan as both my parents hail from there and I was
>>> even
>>> born there, so I'm not really a Bradfordian or a Loiner!
>>>
>>> Noticeably, I picked the losing side in both instances, but I've stuck
>>> by
>>> both of them through thick and a whole lot more thin!!
>>>
>>> Rog
>>>
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