Oh my...what is the world coming to when I agree with Rob Heath on a political 
topic (last bit aside)!? What is not possible now?

The whole War on Terror is a crock.? It is a construction designed to justify 
the concentration of power in the hands of the President of the US on this side 
of the Atlantic and the Prime Minister on that side.? It is also designed to 
justify massive transfer of power and wealth to corporate entities and out of 
the hands of those who have the least.

Are there Islamic extremists who wish us ill out there?? Of course there are.? 
And there are many, many other problems -- much bigger problems -- facing 
society? Cripes, how many terrorist attacks have their been on British soil 
from September 11, 2001 to date?? How many IRA attacks were there in just about 
any similar six year period of time in the 70s or 80s?

Your last bit, Rob, I disagree with.? Naturally, I don't agree that Israel is 
engaged in either a "genocide" or a "land grab" -- a better case could be made 
going the other direction.? But even if the US and UK were to throw Israel 
under the bus there would STILL be Islamic Extremists who would engage in 
terrorist acts.? The very things that this war on terror was built for are 
intimately intertwined with the very things they abhor about our society.

What we have to do is not feel the need to impose our society and our values 
upon them.? When they reach a point where they understand that they are truly 
free to live their lives as they wish free of our impingement then it may 
change.? Not before than.? And certainly fighting a "War" on them will not help.

MAG


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Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 12:39:58 +0700
From: "Robert HEATH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LU] 2K Terrorists
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Well, since you ask.............the whole "MI5/anti-terror/war on
terror" thing is a load of total claptrap.? 2,000 terrorists?? What a
load of nonsense!? They haven't got a clue who is planning what out
there, but just like all that guff about the so-called plot in summer
2006 to blow up planes with liquid bombs, they engineer "news items"
every now and then to make it seem like they have half an idea what is
happening.

The fact is that as long as the muslim population of the world, and
specifically of Britain, perceive that British policy is unjust towards
muslims, then there are going to be young hotheads who will get fired up
enough to commit atrocities.? So that means as long as a) we have troops
occupying Iraq and b)[sorry Mad Doctor Mike, you're not going to like
this and you're going to accuse me of anti-semitism] we support Israel's
genocide and land-grabbing in Palestine...........then everybody in the
UK is in trouble.

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