I thought the book was crap. Complete fiction. Made Clough out to be a complete wimp who really doubted himself. I shoved it in the bin before I finished it. I have no time for Clough but there's no way that the man potrayed in that book was Brian Clough.
--- On Mon, 6/4/09, McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill) <[email protected]> wrote: > From: McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill) > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LU] Damned United > To: [email protected] > Date: Monday, 6 April, 2009, 2:24 PM > Not seen the film - and very much > doubt it'll get beyond the UK & > Ireland - but am looking forward to seeing it. > (although am looking forward to seeing more the Red Riding > that made it > on to TV recently). > > I enjoyed the book, BUT, the part on his rise & fall at > Derby was > written better and more of a compulsive read than his time > at LUFC.... > > (getting my coat) > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > En nombre de Matt Anderson > Enviado el: lunes, 06 de abril de 2009 13:46 > Para: 'Stuart Lee'; [email protected] > Asunto: Re: [LU] Damned United > > Spot on! In the tunnel you can see the "Revie Stand" and > the 1990s built > east stand! I spotted that immediately but went over > the head of > everyone else! > > Also it was funny that they could only use one tiny corner > of today's > Elland Road > > Afterwards friends were talking about dirty leeds and I > mentioned what > about Chopper harris, how did he get his name? Tommy > Smith etc... all > thugs but didn't play for leeds so its alright! > > I expected the anti Leeds thing to be worse but overall > enjoyed it > > I did think though that Clough's skill was in polishing a > turd rather > than handling diamonds.... makes you wonder if he would > have been any > good as England manager after all..... > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of Stuart Lee > Sent: 06 April 2009 12:26 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [LU] Re: Damned United > > Also saw it yesterday! Agree that the Clough part was > played > wonderfully, but the guy who played the Don was just > uncanny. Almost > like his double. > > It was lighter than the book, moving away from Clough's > internal > deliberations and concentrated on the humour. Some really > excellent > observations about footballing in the late sixties/early > seventies (I > loved the state of the Baseball Ground, and Clough putting > out oranges > and an ashtray for each of the Leeds players). Think they > overstated the > rivalry between Clough and Revie though. > > What narked me was the reduction of Leeds players to simple > stereotypes. > Hearing 'Marching on Together' at the opening credits was > superb, but > then moving from two clips of goals (Clarke and Jones?) to > numerous > clips of harsh tackles by Giles/Hunter just set the > scene. > Bremner was made out to be a neanderthal, and Giles like > something from > an Irish Braveheart. The scene where Leeds play Derby in > the rain > (before Derby had to play Juve) was a disgrace in my view. > Also, I'd > liked to have seen a bit more of the Liverpool tactics in > the Charity > Shield match (though I accept Billy did lose his nut > in that one) - and > some mention of tactics from other people like Chopper > Harris etc to > show it was all ubiquitous in those days. It is also worth > watching the > real YTV show when Clough met Revie (available online) to > match it to > how the film portrays it - in my view Clough basically > admitted he got > it wrong and had a lot of respect for the Don. > > Minor point, if you go to all that trouble of recreating > the old > grounds, why have the scene in the tunnel when Giles say > about > justifying yourself to 40,000 and in the back you get the > brand new > three-tiered east stand (or that's what it looked like to > me)? > > Stu > > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators accept no liability for the personal views > and opinions > of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Visit http://tinyurl.com/ce37mx NOW! > > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators accept no liability for the personal views > and opinions > of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Visit http://tinyurl.com/ce37mx NOW! > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators accept no liability for the personal views > and opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > Visit http://tinyurl.com/ce37mx NOW! > _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. 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