Completely. Same deal with large standing armies.
Nigel. On Friday, November 6, 2009, Dr Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: > HiI must admit that when we came over for the Wembley Match two seasons back > I was amazed at [for me] the massive Police presence.It > seemed completely over the top and quite intimidating. > > I wondered what exactly was the mind set of those who planned it.And how much > were they eventually self fulfilling.Michael,Dr Michael Benjamin, > Community Psychiatrist > ------------------------------- > myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT > http://www.myRay.com > ------------------------------ > Mental Health: > http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com > -------------------------------- > Auditing || Quality Control > http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ > -------------------------------- > Blog: > http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com > > > > 2009/11/6 Nigel Barber <[email protected] <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > '[email protected]');>> > > > Whatever happened to presumption of innocence? > > > Nigel. > > > 2009/11/6 Chris Briggs <[email protected]> > >> I haven't read up on this, but the key question to all of this is did the >> Fans get charged with any offence? >> If they did then the club has no choice but to ban them (for a minimum of 3 >> years), if they didn't then the club is over-reacting. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Rick Duniec" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 12:16 PM >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU - FSF petition >> >> >> http://www.fsf.org.uk/sunderlandfans/ >>> >>> The now infamous incident that took place at Newcastle’s Central Station >>> on Saturday 8th August between a group of around 40 Sunderland fans and >>> Northumbria Police has gathered a lot of media attention, especially in the >>> north-east. Some supporters are now familiar with the case down to the >>> smallest details – many however, are not. >>> This is our attempt to create one place where supporters can find all the >>> advice, information and facts they need. If you know anyone who was there >>> send them this link – we want to hear from them! >>> FOLLOWERS OF EVERY CLUB SHOULD CLICK HERE AND SIGN THE PETITION AGAINST >>> SUNDERLAND'S FAN BANS! IT COULD BE YOUR TURN NEXT. >>> What happened? On Saturday August 8th a group of approximately 40 >>> Sunderland fans arrived at Newcastle’s Central Station following their >>> team’s pre-season friendly with Heart of Midlothian. Four fans were >>> hospitalised with serious injuries caused by police dogs and batons. >>> We believe Northumbria Police over-reacted. Supporters have been injured >>> when not posing a threat to themselves, others or the police. >>> The police have labelled many fans as thugs and hooligans intent on >>> meeting for pre-arranged violence in Newcastle. >>> This is despite the fact that a Tannoy announcement at Hearts told them >>> the train was going direct to Sunderland! >>> The police's PR campaign distorted the facts via selectively edited CCTV >>> footage released to the local media. Fans present have repeatedly requested >>> that ALL footage be released. The police have refused to do so. >>> The eye-witness accounts we have received directly contradict the police’s >>> story - it is not often we get so many fans all independently telling the >>> same story - the police accusations just don’t add up. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators >>> accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> http://www.worldnet.org.uk WorldNET2009 >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators >> accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. >> Leedslist mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> http://www.worldnet.org.uk WorldNET2009 >> > > > > -- > Mindbrix: Web design, building, e-commerce, promotion, consultancy... > Happiness at Work Studios > 1 Green Bank > Wapping > E1W 2PA > [email protected] > www.mindbrix.co.uk > T:+44 20 7480 5638 > M > > -- Mindbrix: Web design, building, e-commerce, promotion, consultancy... Happiness at Work Studios 1 Green Bank Wapping E1W 2PA [email protected] www.mindbrix.co.uk T:+44 20 7480 5638 M:+44 7905 311 352 Skype: ntbarber _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. Leedslist mailing list [email protected] http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist http://www.worldnet.org.uk WorldNET2009
