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On 13 Jun 2010, at 10:23, Alec <[email protected]> wrote: > All very encouraging. No team who wins the world cup breezes through > group stages (horrible generalisation, but you get what I mean). > Typical England. Pretty useless performance when the excpectations > are high. Now they have successfully demonstrated how good they > really are (not that good), it is all set up for them to make a run > to the quarter finals and go out in amother glorious penalty > shootout failure. > > Either that or do a France, and exit the tournament bottom of the > group in a shambles. > Alec > > On 13/06/2010 5:03 PM, Michael Benjamin wrote: >> The overall impression at my local bistro was: >> By far and away thr worst game so far. England started out favourites >> ( that in itself in Israel is amazing due to our relations with the >> US. Not for here). But by the end the feeling was England were >> rubbish. Everyone was asking were is Rooney ? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 13 Jun 2010, at 09:56, Richard Walker<[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >>> First of all I'm a massive club before country man, even more so >>> these days with the overpaid rubbish that turns out for England. >>> Still I was still jumping around the room when Gerrard put us in the >>> lead early on. >>> >>> There were 2 really annoying factors for me watching the game on >>> ITV. Firstly the bloody horns. I hate them and for me they are >>> ruining the tournament. I don't mind them so much when you're >>> watching S Africa v Mexico because they don't know any better and >>> that's the only way you're going to get any sort of atmosphere, but >>> when it's England I want to hear the fans not a deafening din that >>> just makes it sound like planes are flying over for the full 90 >>> minutes. Is this someone's pathetic attempt to prevent trouble by >>> just drowning any banter between rival fans ? It's pathetic. >>> >>> Secondly, Clive Tyldesly - is he bumming Emile Heskey ? My god, how >>> many times did he mention how good Eskey was last night ? It was >>> nauseating. I thought Heseky did the basics ok but how many times >>> was he off-side and when he got his one and only chance as a striker >>> in a one on one he did what Heskey does best and fluffed it. I also >>> thought he didn't play well with Rooney at all - some of that first >>> half might have been down to Shrek but as a partnership it just >>> didn't happen. >>> >>> Also, Tyldesley kept reminded us that the Lampard / Gerrard >>> combination was working effectively ? Really ? I thought Gerrard, >>> apart from the goal, was average. He gave the ball away more times >>> that I've seen him do all season for his club. He looked lost. Main >>> reason for that though, I thought, was his partner Lampard who was >>> shite. I've never been a Frank Lampard fan, never considered him >>> good enough for England despite all his goals for his club. He had >>> one decent effort and then there was a couple of unbelievably bad >>> free-kicks. Why is he in the team ? >>> >>> As for the result and performance in general I have seen us play >>> worse in opening games. I thought 1-0 to us would have been a fair >>> result although 1-1 wasn't unfair. I thought the USA showed they can >>> play and they had some decent chances. >>> >>> Scores: >>> >>> Green - 2. I used to bang on about how Nigel Martyn should be >>> England no 1 when Seaman had made the position his for so long. When >>> Nige did get his chance he looked like a novice, shat himself and >>> ended up costing us the match. It demonstrated to me that going into >>> the big competitions you need experience in this position and you >>> just can't go in with a rookie keeper. The occasion is too big. >>> >>> Johnson - 8. Definitely one of the positives both defending and >>> attacking. >>> >>> Cole - 6. Didn't do enough going forward but not really troubled at >>> the back. >>> >>> Terry -6. Did ok. >>> >>> King - 6. Thought he did ok whilst on but he's obviously not fit so >>> why we pinning or hopes on him. It seems to me that with the keeper >>> position and the Rio injury (blessing in disguise IMO) that Capello >>> never had a Plan B for these 2 positions. 6 million a year !!!! >>> >>> Lampard - 3. Poor, >>> >>> Gerrard - 6. Great goal. >>> >>> Lennon - 6. One or two good moments and one or two disapointing >>> moments. I think he always looks like an Under-16 player taking part >>> in a man's game. He never seems to connect cleanly with the ball as >>> if it's too big for him. He does however have pace and can create >>> chances but not today. Is he a luxury in that midfield ? >>> >>> Milner - 2. Not a winger, not a left back, not an England player. >>> >>> Heskey - 6. Did ok but hasn't scored since Feb. >>> >>> Rooney - 7. First half anonymous. Really tried second half to make >>> things happen. Nearly worked. >>> >>> Subs: >>> >>> Wright Phillips - 3. Looked out of his depth. >>> Crouch - 3. Oh dear. >>> Can't remember who else came on. >>> >>> I think we'll win this group. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: Damian Walsh<[email protected]> >>> To: list leedslist<[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sun, 13 June, 2010 7:23:55 >>> Subject: Re: [LU] 1-1 >>> >>> who's mistake cost the game - Green's "assist" or Heskey's miss? >>> Discuss. >>> >>> I have to say though that over the whole match Lampard was the most >>> disappointing England player, at least Heskey& Green made some >>> positive >>> contributions to the match whereas Lampard seemed (through the >>> distorting >>> lens of the telly) to contribute nothing. >>> >>> I thought that England's passing was poor - not to the level you'd >>> expect >>> from an international team. >>> >>> Damian >>> _______________________________________________ >>> the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list >>> administrators accept no liability for the personal views and >>> opinions of contributors. >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the sun as it >>> sails away >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list >>> administrators accept no liability for the personal views and >>> opinions of contributors. >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>> and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the sun as it >>> sails away >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list >> administrators accept no liability for the personal views and >> opinions of contributors. >> Leedslist mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the sun as it >> sails away >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list > administrators accept no liability for the personal views and > opinions of contributors. > Leedslist mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.zetnet.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > and the hardest time in a sailor's day is to watch the sun as it > sails away > _______________________________________________ the Leeds List is an unmoderated mailing list and the list administrators accept no liability for the personal views and opinions of contributors. 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