I do international shipping as well.  The small items are easy to ship.  The
larger items are pretty expensive to ship.  That's basically anything that
will not fit in a 12 x 12 x 6 box or smaller.

-Tim

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Turner" <craig1...@fsmail.net>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: Lot's of cut backs


Tim,

If Legacy take many more accessories out of their production line for
manual OMs I think you may find your services in more demand from the
likes of us - I am assuming you are in the US so wonder on your
abilities to deliver to the UK/Ireland if need be? desperate times
call for desperate measures????

On Nov 10, 11:06 pm, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello Roger,
>
> With all due respect, Legacy has a consistent history of saying one thing
> and doing another. So the idea that the manual machines are not going away
> is pure speculation. Andy announced the end of the product life cycle for
> the 900, 1200 and 1800 all at the same time. In our economy if there is no
> market for the manual machines, they will go away (at least temporarily).
> No doubt the lack of accessories is all about the lack of demand for the
> equipment. I see a trend in the lack of enthusiasm for the equipment and
> style of woodworking the OM creates in general.
>
> Well, I guess the good news for the group is I can manufacture most
> discontinued accessories for the manual mills in small quantities. I have
> continued to improve my machines for my style of work and I see no reason
> for that trend to stop. Over the years I have supplied custom gears, work
> holding fixtures, index plates, templates and more. I strive for
> improvements in all of the parts I make.
>
> -Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Euro-Legacy" <r...@woodworkersworkshop.co.uk>
> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Lot's of cut backs
>
> Hi guys,
> Let me take the opportunity to clarify a few points and defend
> Legacy.
>
> 1. The Model 1800 has not been available for at least 9 months. I
> believe that they should have up-dated their
websitewww.legacywoodworking.com
> much more regularly and Andy and Tracy are fully aware of my opinion
> on the subject.
>
> In their defence I would have to say that it is a question of
> resources and in a business down turn you act where you think it is
> going to get you the best results.
>
> 2. They are not getting out of Red Machines! They are only making them
> in batches to meet demand, and with so little demand in the hobbyist
> market then they are not producing them to sit on the shelf, in the
> current economic climate with the banks not lending you do not put
> your money in to dormant stock.
>
> 3. The CNC market in the USA appears to be more boyant and small
> business has to innovate, remember a CNC machine does not take
> holidays, can work around the clock and needs minimal management and
> has much lower health care costs. For these reasons small businesses
> are looking at CNC. I know from talking to my European customers they
> have the same concerns and have already seen benefits from going CNC.
>
> 4. I would seriously question Craig's comment about Legacy
> "concentrating all their efforts on cnc where the computer and
> software take all the effort out of design and manufacture". That is
> far from the truth, if you own a Red machine you learn how to drive it
> and get the best out of it. With CNC it is the same except the
> learning curve is more about thinking and understanding software and
> less about physical action.
>
> Just remember it can only get better.
> Cheers Roger
>
> On Nov 8, 9:07 am, "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Hello All,
>
> > I see Legacy has made some major cut backs again in the manual machine
> department. Missing from the web site is the 1800. The list of missing
> accessories is really long. Template mounting kit, updated template
follower
> and associated stylus, adjustable vertical vise, thin stock follower,
linear
> molding table, rotary table drive shaft, headstock and tailstock upgrade,
> additional index plate set, mobility kit, design kit and the linear motor
> kit are all gone.
>
> > Any thoughts or comments?
>
> > -Tim
>
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