No way, that's insulation to keep me warm!

-Tim
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Bulkeley 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 12:52 AM
  Subject: Re: Dust Control


  so what do you do run outside every few min and shake like a wet dog to get 
rid of the chips :) :)
  Bill
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Tim Krause 
    To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
    Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 3:23 PM
    Subject: Re: Dust Control


    I like the winter months because I can bundle up in flannel and that sucks 
all the chips on my shirt instead of the machine or the floor. 

    -Tim

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Bill Bulkeley 
      To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:24 PM
      Subject: Re: Dust Control


      I have done similar I used a piece of Plexiglass and a couple of spring 
clamps clamping it to the side of the saddle it work OK but that was to stop 
shaving from hitting me in the face when I needed to get close with one job I 
was doing
      Bill
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: CURTIS GEORGE 
        To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
        Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 8:40 AM
        Subject: Re: Dust Control


        Hello guys

        I too do the air trick, (that is blow the rails with an air compressor)

        I do not like the vinyl curtains that Legacy sells. but I was thinking 
of tiring a piece of plexie glass on the carriage that would run along the 
rails,perhaps if it was adjustable? all it needs is to hang down just below the 
upper rail.  that might stop most of the wood chips that fly into my rail. I 
really do not care about he mess, its just trying to keep the rails form 
building up with junk is my goal.

        I even though of putting a piece of hard board or something on-to the 
carriage so it rides under the router but  over the rails. 

        Any thought or ideas on this one?



        C.A.G.
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
        To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
        Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 6:35:00 PM
        Subject: Re: Dust Control

        I was thinking close fitting that fits neatly over the top rails at 
least 
        like perhaps plastic channel
        and the top rails are the maine concern it were the saddle runs

        Bill


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
        To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
        Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 7:25 AM
        Subject: Dust Control


        I had the same idea, but if the cover hangs over the rails it will also
        interfere with the tailstock.  I know that I really don't like the vinyl
        curtains for dust control.  I thought about bristles, but in the end a
        frequent vacuuming and compressed air see to be the winners for me as 
well.
        On Curt's machine, the slotting of the rails would not work.  His 
bushings
        are a different orientation.

        -Tim

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
        To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
        Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:15 PM
        Subject: Re: 1/32" control on y-axis


        only the slots cut in the rails but you already know that one
        I also have compressed air so after every cut I blow the rails clean
        it only takes a couple of seconds.
        I did have an idea of sliding rail covers that move with the saddle but 
that
        was just an idea I get lots of crazy ideas

        Bill

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "Curtis" <curtgeo...@wowway.com>
        To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
        Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 6:50 AM
        Subject: Re: 1/32" control on y-axis


        Hello all.
        I have a question on the Legacy, that fits into this frame work of the
        topic.
        I want to figure out a better way to stop wood chips from bogging down
        my rails.Anyone have a better way TO stop this from happening. I for
        one would like the hear about your way.

        C.A.G.

        On Oct 27, 4:21 am, carstenstig...@verizon.net wrote:
        > Tim I have had to re apply to the group. Google seems to have dropped 
me.
        > I still get all the emails but cannot access the site.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > In His Service
        > Carl StigersWWW.treetothee.com
        >
        >
        >
        > On 10/26/11,Tim Krause<artmarb...@comcast.net>wrote:Hello Myck,
        >
        >
        >
        > Rotary table control is one of my favorite topics:
        >
        >
        
http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/pungs_index_method/crankhandle_rotary_table_chart.html
        >
        >
        >
        > and
        >
        >
        >
        > 
http://www.ornamentalmills.com/tips/TK_rotary_table_indexing/index.html
        >
        >
        >
        > I also figured out a lock for the table to prevent the table from 
turning
        > while making a cut.
        >
        >
        >
        >
        
http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/7794cdab195bcbcb
        >
        >
        >
        > There is a long thread with some other options as well.
        >
        >
        
http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/browse_thread/thread/13f48e75d06e0ae8/84af7bbd5f576c8a?q=rotary+table+lock&lnk=ol&;
        >
        >
        >
        > As far as the x,y, and z, it seems to me adding digital scales (or
        > mechanical scales for small movement) seems to be the best idea so 
far.
        > I've seen guys put digital scales on the x,y, and z axis. That seems 
a bit
        > spendy to me but as long as you can lock the carriages in place 
you've got
        > some good control. I guess it really depends what type of cuts you are
        > trying to make and how much precision are you looking for? I'm 
assuming
        > you've all seen the ideas about replacing the shaft collars with home 
made
        > stops.
        >
        >
        >
        > My solution for the y-axis would not work well on the x because of 
expense
        > or practical reasons on the z.
        >
        >
        >
        > Hey curt, remember my poor man's router height adjustment? That gives 
you
        > 1/32 of an inch control per turn of the wing nut. It was like the 
router
        > razer without having to modify a $325 router. The all thread screwed 
in
        > the porter cable turret and went through the hole where the height rod
        > goes. If you need to drop down a hair that is measurable, that's one 
way
        > to do it. With a digital scale you can bump the router into place 
seeing
        > the number to verify the location. Not so easy without a gauge. About 
the
        > same time I showed if you need a specific small adjustment you can 
insert
        > a dial indicator and measure the movements. See here
        >
        
:http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/0f0749111b62dd25
        .
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > Reminds me of the other idea of the adjustable depth rod. A 10-32 
screw
        > installed inside of a piece of 3/8" CRS that you can rotate the screw 
for
        > fine adjustment. Since it's 32 threads per inch you know a 1/2 turn 
would
        > move you a little over .015" In retrospect, it might be handier to 
have
        > the screw be a 10 or 20 pitch thread to get the adjustment in 10'ths 
if
        > you using a pair of digital calipers. A 1/4-20 might fit the 
application
        > better. Here's the original
        >
        
posthttp://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/msg/fb8789b8b3261
        db4
        >
        >
        >
        > How's this for a new idea. For repeating depths on the z, how about
        > mounting a story stick that has the common depths and does not block
        > normal use? Come to think of it, if you have a block similar to 
Legacy's
        > smart pad that was mounted on the inner rail that is cut to match the
        > center of the spindle you could use that as your reference point. 
Then you
        > can use some shop made blocks as measuring tools between the router 
depth
        > rod and turret. Is this sparking any new ideas?
        >
        >
        >
        > -Tim
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        >
        > From:Myck Rych
        >
        > To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
        >
        > Sent:Wednesday, October 26, 2011 4:22 AM
        >
        > Subject:Re: 1/32" control on y-axis
        >
        > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:44 AM, CURTIS
        > GEORGE<curtgeo...@wowway.com>wrote:Hello Tim
        > How about finding a better way to control the depth of cut. I mean
        > measureing and subrtracting the numbers, then useing feeler gauges to 
get
        > the proper dia. there has to be a better?
        > Dose anyone out there have any ideas or tricks that thay use ? Getting
        > better control of my Legacy is always a good idea, If anyone know of a
        > better way, I for one would like to hear it.
        > C.A.G.
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: Tim Krause <artmarb...@comcast.net>
        > To:Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com
        > Sent: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:22:30 -0400 (EDT)
        > Subject: 1/32" control on y-axisHello All,
        >
        >
        >
        > Does any one need the ability to control their y-axis by a 32nd of an 
inch
        > in a repeatable fashion. I've got an idea that's been in the back of 
my
        > head for a long time and I now have the ability to make it happen, 
but for
        > the
        > life of me, I cannot remember why this was even desired. Can someone 
help
        > me out :-) Is this something that would interest you? I might make
        > it happen.
        >
        >
        >
        > -Tim
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >
        > I'd like more precise measurement abilities in all axis, plus a more
        > precise turntable measurement system.
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