Rails? Helpful? Craft Supplies U S A. Then to Lathe Accessories. Then to Tool Mule. Rails From: Tim Krause Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 11:22 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using
I've been without email and the list actually got a little busy. I've got over 200 emails to look through and 30+ need replies so I'm keeping it short. The rails are custom and I know where it is made. Setup cost is high and so is a minimum run if one where to have the rail duplicated. I don't think this group alone could support the investment. $24 a foot was the current price this summer but the rail was not available for sale. Besides, last I heard Legacy backordered until spring or something ridiculous on the rail? Regarding sag, it would seem to me adding a few more legs and supports would solve the problem of sagging rails. I've never had to deal with the problem though. 80/20 also sells a uhmw linear slide option but the DIY-CNC has not caught onto using them. I think that fact alone says volumes about that possibility. Using 80/20 as a bolt on base for real linear bearings would be an option but I think one has to justify the cost of a bolt together solution and determine if they are making financial sense. One could attach supported rails and use bearings like Legacy is on their current line of cnc machines. It's going to add up fast imho. For those wanting to dream, IGUS, Pacific Bearing and Bishop Wisecarver all have off the shelf linear slides suitable for the woodworking industry. I've got more thoughts but I need to move on. -Tim ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger H Phebey To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 3:36 PM Subject: RE: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using Hi Guys Why not tackle it a different way, everyone who wants some extrusion put their hand up and indicate how much they want and then either I or Tim could co-ordinate it and get a price from Legacy. I am happy to make a list and if you prefer to do it of list then r...@woodworkersworkshop.co.uk will find me. That way we can work out how much is required and I am happy to ask Andy for a price and delivery timescale and it can be purchased direct, at worst he can decline. It will not be shipped from the UK as over here we are too busy getting ready for the Olympic Games. Regards Roger From: legacy-ornamental-mills+bnccn_908_4dxd7irp4bboe9fo...@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+bnccn_908_4dxd7irp4bboe9fo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Becker Sent: 10 January 2012 23:11 To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using I have seen several times people wanting to find another source for the rails, has anyone taken a rail to a place to see if they could manufacture them? and if they did what was a min order? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 6:06:12 PM Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using I think the answer is to look back into legacy's past and look at the woodchuck they had steel rails which are available every were and improve on the problems that legacy had with them Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Myck Rych To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:23 AM Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using I haven't "customised "my legacy, but if I were facing your issue I would get very hard wood, like Lignum vitae and make rails myself. One could surely use router bits to make the openings for the hardware. & I bet one could try this and get a usable rail. On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 6:06 AM, Bill Bulkeley <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: not that there is much point now but here you go curt Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 12:24 PM Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using Hello Brigitte and Bill Extruded Alum. is what the 80-20 stuff calls it. But I honestly do not know the type of,or mold... Bill if you still have that scan of the rail, could you send it here? I have gone to some company's who sell Extruded alum. but no go there. I've also gone to web sites and looked at there stuff, (still no dice.) Imp sure you are right, someone will stumble upon it someday. Hay with 200+ people looking for the answers, Im sure we all will figure something out! I was thinking of back tracking the Legacy/Phantom ind. history, to see if there might be some clues to where the rail comes from? Who know??? I just might pay off. I have to go. talk to you (all) latter. C.A.G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 09, 2012 7:20 PM Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using Ps what I use to do was put a piece of rail on my computer scanner end on and scan the rail profile to send to different companies but no one here in my country has ever seen it so good luck to any who search in the USA Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:58 AM Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using Hello Bill, (and everyone else!) ;-) I've been searching the net for the Extruded Alum. rail for a while.(with no luck so far.) I believe that there is no way the Legacy is having the rail custom made for there comp. My only reason I say this is They are way to small of a company to pay for custom rail its not cost effective for a small comp. To go out and pay an arm and a leg for a material that makes up a big part of product. THERE has to be a supplier for that rail, somewhere ! We just have to find it. You know what is funny? every time this topic comes up, I start thinking about making my own Machine,"bigger", better,faster...(I hear the theme for the Six million dollar man, going off in my head now, sadly I know its almost time for a commercial break. I call Dinner time!) ;-) Anyhow I just wanted you to know that I'm still looking. Don't give up yet Bill. Who knows its properly as simple As, an Australian company who is making there product in Mexico (with Chinese labor.) ;-) Have a good night. C.A.G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using well at the moment I'm OK for stuff after years of searching the Internet but if any one was dismantling a damaged mill I would like four 7ft rails and a long lead screw to make my 900 into a longer machine but I doubt if that will ever happen any thing else that legacy doesn't have good old Tim is the man the best source of legacy mods there is. rail is the hardest to get I would love to know were legacy gets it and see if we can buy it for our selves direct and before any body posts sights that sell similar I want the same rail . Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Begat" <bega...@gmail.com> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 10:49 PM Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using Bill, That's an eye opener! If you could post the stuff you want just in case some of us run across it used. Begat On Jan 7, 11:42 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: Its been a while so the figures here are approximate what I can remember. shipping and handling is like 800 dollars if I remember and another $200 Australian import tax to my goverment because the item is over a thousand dollars in value so all up it is around $2400 to buy and ship a 900 to me and at that time your dollar was a lot stronger so it was even more expensive when I did the dollar exchange like $2600 AU. I wanted a bigger machine but it nearly broke me to get a 900 here. on the other hand a revo which was under a $1000 eight hundred and something I think it was, eliminated the 200 import tax and the shipping and handling was around 500 I think so all up the revo is around $1300 making it a much better option but of coarse that is gone now with no more revos. so imagine if I wanted a cnc which comes fully assembled and much heaver I would have to sell my house to buy the dam thing that is why cnc will always be totally out of my reach. and any extras to buy from legacy the shipping is very high too so I don't mind paying new cost for second hand legacy extras on ebay or privately because it always works out much cheaper for me than new from legacy .and legacy shipping to Australia has always been very very very slow magnate was the best cheaper and quicker but they dont do much extras now. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Begat" <bega...@gmail.com> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 10:31 AM Subject: Re: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not Using Bill, How much does it cost to ship your 900 from Utah? Begat On Jan 7, 5:15 pm, "Bill Bulkeley" <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > very interesting some times I sure wished I lived in the USA so much > easier > to get stuff > I would have loved to been able to start with a larger model than > the 900 > but the huge shipping cost is impossible for me. > but over there second hand is the way to go so much cheaper if your > starting out > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Begat" <bega...@gmail.com> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" > <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 3:54 AM > Subject: Furniture Maker Who Hoisting of Mills out of Way when not > Using > > Happy New Year Everyone, > > Been busy, but wanted to share with you a link of a guy who says > > he > > has a 8' Mill that he hoists up to keep it from taking up too much > > floor space!!!http://lumberjocks.com/topics/33353The same guy made > > the legs on this beautiful table with his mill. > > Begat > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG -www.avg.com > > Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4727 - Release Date: > > 01/06/12 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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