Which method did you go with?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Begat" <bega...@gmail.com>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts


Tim,

Thanks for the tip on how to drop the bottom rails so I could get the
promised swing diameter.  And it beats the heck out of trimming down
the edges.  That's too time consuming.

Begat

On Feb 23, 11:24 pm, Louis Brown <bega...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tim,
>
> Whenever I get comfortable with my machine, you and Bill always have a
> wild-eyed (if brilliant) modification. For now, I will look into getting
> extra half inch out of the existing legs!!!!
>
> Begat
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> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Tim Krause <artmarb...@comcast.net>
wrote:
> > Hi Begat,
>
> > That's a surprise that the 9" advertised swing is not the real max. How
> > short is your machine of turning 9"?
>
> > A no cost simple temporary mod would be to remove the bolts that hold
the
> > bed to the legs (1/4-20) and drop the bed till it bottoms out on the
frame.
> > Then for install 4 of the large locking plates in the aluminum rail on
the
> > side and bolt the bed to the legs as usual. That will gain you about a
> > 1/2".
>
> > I know you can machine the slots in the legs an additional 1/2" and that
> > should do it as well. It's an hour job at any machine shop.
>
> > Personally, if I was making pilaster I would want 8 or more mounted at a
> > time. That means lowering the spindle in the legacy to accommodate say a
> > 20" swing. I recall that's close to what Bill can do with his lowered
> > setup. In my opinion, it's not that radical. You can see his lowered
> > spindle in his side mounted mod page.
> >http://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html
>
> > -Tim
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Begat" <bega...@gmail.com>
> > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts
>
> > Hello All,
>
> > I share Jeff's reasoning completely. And as for useability, that
> > really does depend on what you are trying to accomplish. The other
> > day I was in a hotel and the furniture in the chain was made by a
> > small American company. One of the things they made was the rack that
> > you put your suitcase on. Until that moment, I had wondered what I
> > would use the 1.5 inch pilaster dog for. It turns out that the rack
> > used four of them. You could special order an octagon that could cut
> > eight of those at once and perhaps go into production.
>
> > By the way, my TK 6 inch pilaster dog came today in the mail. Thanks
> > Tim. My 900 sits on blocks so I get the max swing, and 9" is not it.
> > I'm limited not from below or from the side but from the top. If I
> > could drop the bed just a bit further, I could swing the 9 inches (6
> > inch dog plus 2x1.5 inch stock. )
>
> > I already know I can use them on my Artisan with it's 11 inch swing,
> > but I want to see what it takes to use them on the 900.
>
> > I believe I need the TK leg upgrade. That extra height would do the
> > job.
>
> > Begat
>
> > On Feb 23, 4:43 pm, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote:
> > > Strangely enough I really like your answers Jeff.
> > > Something new, not done before,and a little different. AWESOME Answers
> > Jeff,
> > > I realy like your mind set! ;-)
>
> > > Now let me put my cards on the table on this topic,
> > > Pilaster Dag's I have never seen much value in them for the most part.
> > The
> > > few times that I needed them I just used a 4x4 and made plywood ends
(for
> > > the screws to hold onto) and then when necessary a dab of hot melt
glue
> > in
> > > the middle to keep everything solid.
> > > Now I have never needed to make more than 20 turnings in any job that
Ive
> > > had, So Large production jobs I've not had. but for my time and money
I
> > find
> > > the old scrap or dunnage pile to be more useful for me. The plywood
and
> > > screw pockets also sound like a much cheaper way to go about it, to
me.
>
> > > Please don't get my wrong, Im not trying to under cut Tim's production
> > > ability (or his starving artist prices.) I just don't see the value in
> > these
> > > dogs. Can anyone explain why these things are so widely valued to so
many
> > > people?
>
> > > I have to go now, Im pulling a double shift tonight. Have a good
evening.
> > > C.A.G.
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Becker" <jwb...@insightbb.com>
> > > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:47 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts
>
> > > My intentions of making it 5 sides was for 2 reasons, first it will
allow
> > > them to use a larger and thicker board, and still do more at a time
than
> > 4
> > > sided ones, and it would also be something Legacy did not make so you
> > could
> > > still make it. From what I have seen posted on here most want a larger
> > > piece of wood, and want the process sped up. That could help both
things
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net>
> > > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:18:15 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts
>
> > > Yes but it hardly seems worth it.
>
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <jwb...@insightbb.com>
> > > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:24 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts
>
> > > > You know you can also change it to 5 sides.
> > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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