Which method did you go with? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Begat" <bega...@gmail.com> To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts
Tim, Thanks for the tip on how to drop the bottom rails so I could get the promised swing diameter. And it beats the heck out of trimming down the edges. That's too time consuming. Begat On Feb 23, 11:24 pm, Louis Brown <bega...@gmail.com> wrote: > Tim, > > Whenever I get comfortable with my machine, you and Bill always have a > wild-eyed (if brilliant) modification. For now, I will look into getting > extra half inch out of the existing legs!!!! > > Begat > > > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Tim Krause <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Begat, > > > That's a surprise that the 9" advertised swing is not the real max. How > > short is your machine of turning 9"? > > > A no cost simple temporary mod would be to remove the bolts that hold the > > bed to the legs (1/4-20) and drop the bed till it bottoms out on the frame. > > Then for install 4 of the large locking plates in the aluminum rail on the > > side and bolt the bed to the legs as usual. That will gain you about a > > 1/2". > > > I know you can machine the slots in the legs an additional 1/2" and that > > should do it as well. It's an hour job at any machine shop. > > > Personally, if I was making pilaster I would want 8 or more mounted at a > > time. That means lowering the spindle in the legacy to accommodate say a > > 20" swing. I recall that's close to what Bill can do with his lowered > > setup. In my opinion, it's not that radical. You can see his lowered > > spindle in his side mounted mod page. > >http://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/side_cutting_mod.html > > > -Tim > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Begat" <bega...@gmail.com> > > To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:46 PM > > Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts > > > Hello All, > > > I share Jeff's reasoning completely. And as for useability, that > > really does depend on what you are trying to accomplish. The other > > day I was in a hotel and the furniture in the chain was made by a > > small American company. One of the things they made was the rack that > > you put your suitcase on. Until that moment, I had wondered what I > > would use the 1.5 inch pilaster dog for. It turns out that the rack > > used four of them. You could special order an octagon that could cut > > eight of those at once and perhaps go into production. > > > By the way, my TK 6 inch pilaster dog came today in the mail. Thanks > > Tim. My 900 sits on blocks so I get the max swing, and 9" is not it. > > I'm limited not from below or from the side but from the top. If I > > could drop the bed just a bit further, I could swing the 9 inches (6 > > inch dog plus 2x1.5 inch stock. ) > > > I already know I can use them on my Artisan with it's 11 inch swing, > > but I want to see what it takes to use them on the 900. > > > I believe I need the TK leg upgrade. That extra height would do the > > job. > > > Begat > > > On Feb 23, 4:43 pm, "curt george" <curtgeo...@wowway.com> wrote: > > > Strangely enough I really like your answers Jeff. > > > Something new, not done before,and a little different. AWESOME Answers > > Jeff, > > > I realy like your mind set! ;-) > > > > Now let me put my cards on the table on this topic, > > > Pilaster Dag's I have never seen much value in them for the most part. > > The > > > few times that I needed them I just used a 4x4 and made plywood ends (for > > > the screws to hold onto) and then when necessary a dab of hot melt glue > > in > > > the middle to keep everything solid. > > > Now I have never needed to make more than 20 turnings in any job that Ive > > > had, So Large production jobs I've not had. but for my time and money I > > find > > > the old scrap or dunnage pile to be more useful for me. The plywood and > > > screw pockets also sound like a much cheaper way to go about it, to me. > > > > Please don't get my wrong, Im not trying to under cut Tim's production > > > ability (or his starving artist prices.) I just don't see the value in > > these > > > dogs. Can anyone explain why these things are so widely valued to so many > > > people? > > > > I have to go now, Im pulling a double shift tonight. Have a good evening. > > > C.A.G. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jeff Becker" <jwb...@insightbb.com> > > > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:47 AM > > > Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts > > > > My intentions of making it 5 sides was for 2 reasons, first it will allow > > > them to use a larger and thicker board, and still do more at a time than > > 4 > > > sided ones, and it would also be something Legacy did not make so you > > could > > > still make it. From what I have seen posted on here most want a larger > > > piece of wood, and want the process sped up. That could help both things > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Tim Krause" <artmarb...@comcast.net> > > > To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:18:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts > > > > Yes but it hardly seems worth it. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <jwb...@insightbb.com> > > > To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 6:24 AM > > > Subject: Re: Pilaster Dogs New thoughts > > > > > You know you can also change it to 5 sides. > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > > To post to this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To post to this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills?hl=en.