I took another look, that longer piece of loose rail in the front of the 
picture is probably the template mounting kit. 

-Tim
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Louis Brown 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 1:01 AM
  Subject: Re: A 900 in Carbondale, Illinois for $650


  Tim,

  As always, you make the right observations.  I missed some of the details.  I 
made a mental note of the extra rail, but I did not see the holes instead of 
the stair steps.  An upgraded 400?  Anyone interested should sort this out.

  Begat


  On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Tim Krause <artmarb...@comcast.net> wrote:

    Hi Begat, 

    Something is off about that machine being sold as a model 900.  The legs 
have holes instead of the stair step guides.  The tailstock appears to have the 
screw type lock instead of the clamp type.  The brackets for the x-axis lead 
screw, drive hub, all the plastic knobs, adjustable arm, and index pin are from 
the older machines.  I wonder if we are looking at a first generation 900?  As 
the official/un-official historian of model changes, this one is a puzzler!  

    On the plus side, parts of the new style template follower is shown and 
there are two longer rails on the bench that might be the vertical bench vise.  
It's hard to see in the photos.  I don't see any gears in the photos. 

    Ah, mystery solved.  In one of my manuals, the title page of the 900 
assembly instructions is showing a similar picture of this machine.  On the 
following assembly instructions, it shows pictures of the updated legs.  My 
other manual shows a picture of the model 400 and 900 side by side.  The model 
400 has the screw type lock and the old style index pin and drive hub.  This 
machine did not come with spiral capabilities or any leadscrews, but could be 
upgraded.  

    The 900 had the cam lock on the tailstock and the new 4 leaf clover drive 
hub.  It also shows it had the small teeth (180 tooth) on the main gear where 
the newer 900's have the larger tooth (88 tooth).  All the parts shown in the 
photos are from the early machines.  This machine was the start of the newer 
style top hat style bearings on all of the rails.  Another odd item is the 
split nut is turned upside down on the x-axis.  This is how it's shown in the 
photo on Craigslist. 

    Having said all of that, what I think we are really seeing is an updated 
model 400.  It's still a good deal if the gears are there. 

    -Tim

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Begat 
      To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
      Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:16 PM
      Subject: A 900 in Carbondale, Illinois for $650


      A 900 for $650!  If you are in the mid-west, you can't beat this price.  
No router, but what a price.

      http://carbondale.craigslist.org/tls/3418322184.html

      Go for it,

      Begat


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