curtis...do not want to sound like a broken record myself...i did see the videos and mike's technique is a great time saver, but it cannot do odd ball divisions...great for 2,4,8, 12 or 16...cannot do 3,5,6,7,9,11...granted, these are rarely done but the point of setting up the indexer is to make it extremely user friendly with the added benefit that it can quickly and easily do all the common indexing divisions and the odd divisions as well...but my main motivation in doing all of this is to make it user friendly, so anyone with minimal woodworking experience can begin to do ornamental milling work with not a great deal of instruction...thanks for the reply...joe
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 6:02:03 AM UTC-4, Curtis wrote: > > Hello Joe > I dont want to sound like a broken record. > but did you see Mike Pungs videos on gear indexing and carrage travel > indexing. those two videos make the hole set-up of indexing plates and > moving the carrage to a new location for roping into a simple ABC type of > problem. Yes there still is some math, but there is not need for other jigs > or tools to get even those odd parts done more easly. > > I have to get to work now. > I wish you luck on your new mod. I hope it works out well for you. > Have a great day. > C.A.G. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> > To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> > Sent: Thu, 29 May 2014 05:34:32 -0400 (EDT) > Subject: Re: indexing accessory completed > > tim...the reason i am not using the plates i showed a photo of previously > is those plates are from the other twist machine(the killinger) i have been > using for the past twenty years or so...i did not want to bust up that > machine, even though i do not plan to use it in the future..is that machine > possibly worth something?...maybe...but the better reason as to why i went > with the grizzly indexer is i can do any number of divisions with the > indexer while with the plates, i was limited to the number of holes we > drilled into the plate...now the odds of ever using some obscure indexing > number are extremely great, but i will have that capability with the > indexer, regardless...my intentions on how to use this are straight > forward...basically for doing reeding or fluting work on poles, finials or > furniture legs...whether it be straight or spiraled work(yes, straight work > is easily accomplished with the legacy indexing plates, but if the indexer > is on the machine, why not just us it)...the indexer simplifies things to a > great degree...and also to keep in mind, is that i am delegating this work > to others(after a quick usage course), so keeping it simple is in my > favor...the method everyone seems to use(moving the carriage) seems a bit > complex, especially if i have to explain it to others...and it still only > works in regards to numbers that work with the lead screw(four revolutions > per inch)...if you need a 5,7,9 or 11 repeat, for example, it can't be done > without some guess work on the part of the operator...with the indexer, it > is simply done by using some mathematics...if you need 5 cuts, for example, > you start at 0 for the first cut, then index to 72 for the next cut, then > 144, and so on...i am a bit surprised that legacy didn't seem to address > this situation...they did so well with the other nuances of the > machine...anyway, i'd like to hear your thoughts on the subject...thanks > for the reply...joe...p.s. working on the tailstock mod, but hit a little > snag...working it out...more to follow > > On Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:18:20 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: >> >> >> I've got some thoughts on this, but I need a while fully understand why >> you are doing this method instead of the index plate you originally showed >> us. All I thought was needed was a scaled down version. I'd love to hear >> how you are going to use this. I might have some suggestions, but most >> have been written in the group already. >> >> -Tim >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:*'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills >> *To:*legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 27, 2014 2:11 PM >> *Subject:* Re: indexing accessory completed >> >> one more tweak to this set up...need to cut off,grind/shape and re weld >> that flat lever, so it follows the curvature of the indexing base and then >> will not interfere with the y-axis router carriage >> >> On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:01:27 PM UTC-4, joe biunno wrote: >>> >>> completed the indexer...not too many surprises in the process...total >>> investment was $300, give or take...labor took about 12 hours...there are >>> 24 indents built into the grizzly indexer( item # H7592)...press the spring >>> loaded lever a bit and you can index to any 15 degree indent(total of >>> 24)...use the locking lever if you want, but the spring in the lever is >>> strong enough to keep the degree setting without worry of it slipping >>> out...or do the math for any of the odd divisions(5,7,9,11, etc.) and use >>> the chuck locking lever...there is a 360 degree wheel around the base of >>> the chuck to make this problem free(so long as you are good at math and >>> have a good memory!...LOL!)...the three jaw chuck is very well machined and >>> has excellent tolerances...certainly good enough for woodworking...cut off >>> the #2 mortise end of the legacy drive center and used the remaining hub to >>> lock into the chuck so i can still use the legacy drive plates...there is a >>> shaft collar lock at the end of the faceplate to lock the piece to the >>> legacy headstock nose...but you still screw the unit onto the legacy 1"-8 >>> thread(the face plate is threaded, a local purchase), then lock it >>> down...we drilled and tapped 4, 1/4"-20 holes into the back of the >>> chuck/indexer that were in alignment with the holes in the faceplate...we >>> also trimmed as much metal from the indexer as we could to reduce the >>> overall weight, which comes in at 14 lbs....you loose the #2 morse taper in >>> the legacy headstock with the indexer in place, but i can live with >>> that(the hole through the indexer is 19/32")...indexer will add about 5" to >>> the length of the headstock nose, no issues on my machine,LOL...overall, >>> very pleased with the piece and what it can do and how it can simplify >>> indexing tasks when doing spiral work...comments and suggestions are >>> welcome...onto the next mod!...joe >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > To post to this group, send email to > legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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