I think it was just cypress pine it was from the scrap pile at the time and 
buffed on my beal buffing system if I remember

It was a while ago pre fire i must remake it again some time

Bill

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Sunday, 25 September 2016 1:15 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Balls

 

Bill,
I did not know about your project page on the Legacy site.
VERY NICE!  
The "ball" (object) at the very end is gorgeous!  What wood did you use?
Thanks for sharing.
Mac

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: Sep 24, 2016 10:48 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Balls 




Richard have you considered using a roundover bit like 

 https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=7517

assuming your ball your making is 11/2 inches diameter instead of trying to 
template cut one.

Or even 

https://www.magnate.net/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1212

with a little modifying of the bit you could hold the ball between centres like 
on the lathe.

Or make up something like i did to machine balls on the legacy

http://ornamentalmills.com/Bill_Bulkeley/ball_attachment/index.html template 
turning on the mills is a little limited in repeated accuracy I feel. I have 
had success only with broad sweeping curves  with the side cutting method. 
Sometimes the wood lathe is still the best way to go but that doesn’t stop us 
mill owners from trying :-)

 

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of CURTIS GEORGE
Sent: Saturday, 24 September 2016 10:46 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Balls

 

Good morning Richard

I call it "House Rules" You need to work with your equipment, and learn all for 
its quirks.  Every machine handles just a little differently. (as far as the 
tail stock goes.)

 

I did understand your Ball problem. 

The wooden ball that you are making are some what egg shaped/elliptical, 
meaning something is slightly off. Perhaps its the depth of cut being slightly 
off, or your template is just a hair to one side. Perhaps its the router bit 
its self, that's the problem???  What I was suggesting is to make a number of 
your elliptical balls, make them all the same, then using a jam chuck and turn 
those balls 90 deg. and re-cutting those balls, truing them up. (making them 
all round.)






Another idea, Is Can you take a few pictures of your set up? Perhaps someone 
could see something more in the way your machine is laid out? 

The template follower is a very nice tool, and can be a lot of fun to use. ( I 
cant wait to see all of your skittles that you've made.)






As a General rule of thumb. when I make a lot of anything,  I use the mass 
production idea. meaning I make one cut exactly the same on every part I'm 
making, and then move on to the next cut. this idea keeps everything the same, 
If I'm slightly off, everything is slightly off .Using this idea Makes, it much 
easier to fine tune the problem.  To many people try to make one idiom form 
start to finish and then repeat the process. 

I find that I get better uniformity using this method, "ONE CUT" Not One part 
at a time.




Richard I wish you the best of luck with this project. I cant wait and Hear how 
everything works out of you.





ONE MORE IDEA. keep everything as is. and use your lathe to do the fine touch 
ups? If you use the WC to rough out the balls, and then true them up on A 
different machine,(lathe, belt sander...? )  You might find it quicker 
switching machines, then it would be to, "Find your, needle in the hay stack" 
(so to speak.)





Have a great day.





C.A.G

 


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From: "rchrd ellis1" <rchrd.ell...@gmail.com>
To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:40:51 AM
Subject: Re: Balls

 

Hi Curt

I have no trouble turning a ball between centers on my normal lathe, exactly as 
you described, between two jam chucks, made out of some very hard boxwood 
(Buxus ) What I am trying to do is use the Woodchuck instead of the Lathe.

I have done a few mods to it . The way I do pattern work is from the rear of 
the Woodchuck ( opposite side to the leadscrew )  I stand there and pull the 
router towards me and the pattern, the spindle turning at about 80 r.p.m. and 
the leadscrew going very slow.

Using this method I can see just where the roller bearing is , or as in this 
ball turning experiment ,Stylus peg.

The depth of cut is controlled by a stop that touches on the axis screw nut.

I just did 18 skittles by this method and it is so easy, 

One of my Mods was to the tailstock quick action lever. It flicked up a couple 
of times dropping the wood whilst turning. The red plastic now has a metal 
clamp around it and a rare earth magnet fastened to the tailstock. holds it 
quite firm now.

I do not like the lever type control, would rather have a wheel as per normal 
lathe.     When tightening the lever it tend to tip the tailstock backwards  
and that lifts the wood up at that end,,also it can put too much pressure onto 
the headstock bearings that I have just replaced with some oilite bushes .

Roger kindly pointed out that my description of my skittle balls   need a 
better explanation  The balls once I turn them are not a true round ball shape 
but look as if they have been squashed into an elliptical shape.

I wish I was getting paid by the hour for this job, or shall I say caper!!!

Richard
On Friday, September 23, 2016 at 6:02:35 PM UTC+1, rchrd....@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All

I am at a loss to understand why, when I try to turn balls from some pine to go 
with some kids skittles I have made, they come out looking like rugby balls 
instead of spherical shape.

The wood is 1 1/2 dia. and is held in a chuck,--- router cutter is 1/2 inch 
dia.  the stylus on the end of the router carriage is 1/8 inch dia 

 I use a metal washer /plate of the same dia. as the wood as a pattern .

The ball as I have said before comes off oval in shape  it parts of very 
easily, I do the end of the wood first then travel back to the washer to do the 
other side of the ball,  it just drops off into the sawdust, which was a 
surprise
Do I need a larger plate washer or what do you recommend I do?  Is there a 
magic formula for the diameters of the cutter plate and stylus? 

Richard  

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