You say your well pleased with the Woodchuck but critical of the materials used in it's construction. I accept you may be critical and that is your right however remember that design is properly approaching 30 years old and it was Andy's original design and he was not copying or enhancing someone else's previous design as far as I know. Many of us have a Doctorate in hind sight, mine is spotting a nice female posterior at a hundred yards.
By the way I also would not join the navy let alone the submarine service. My father served 27 years in the Royal Navy, and 23 years of it was in submarines. If you have ever seen the German programme Das Boot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMj0_wCn6jM&list=PLFtKvbT8Wnl82N7B9p930vEflkdpm6zQQ then you get some idea of what it was like. When Das Boot was on the BBC TV my father was still alive and I asked him if he had ever been stuck on the bottom of the sea like it was depicted in Das Boot. He replied yes, quite a few times, and it was frightening. His job was to take the boat up and down upon the skipper's request. He was lucky, he came through WWII but lost a lot of friends. He was also lucky to miss the sinking of HMS Truculent which sunk in the Thames Estuary on 12 January 1950 after a collision with the merchant vessel Dvina. HMS Truculent was returning to Sheerness after a refit, 69 men lost their lives that day. He was the Chief Petty Officer but was drafted a few days before the accident. If you are ever in Portsmouth, Hampshire UK, take a trip the Submarine Service Museum across the water at what was HMS Dolphin, home of the submarine service in Gosport. Cheers Roger Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 [http://bit.ly/1PH8eIw] From: Richard Ellis Received: 08/04/2017 08:14:41 +01:00 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills CC: rchrd.ell...@gmail.com, Legacy-Ornamental-Mills@googlegroups.com Roger When I joined up in the Forces, We were told not to discuss religion or politics. I am well pleased with the Woodchuck other than the materials that were used in it's construction and the sloppy finish on some parts. It is a simple bit of kit and does a good job as Mike has shown. CNC is o.k. if one is turning out more than just a few items, however I believe the programming takes a longish time. I was on the SS Chusan called the happy ship, for 9 months (see web P&O ) and saw a sub come out of the water close by, let me just say you would not get me to serve on one , I do like the fresh air and sunshine Richard On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 11:00:37 AM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote: Hi Richard Now for the Good News, we all die and we have not a clue what happens after that. Now that is my opinion but I respect others who think differently. In the meantime I will settle for a good whisky but pass on the cigar as I gave up smoking at 10 years of age after trying a sly smoke of a Maltese cigarette whilst living in Malta in 1950 -1953. We lived there because my father was in Royal Navy Submarine Service. He even managed to get both my brother and me each a day at sea in the submarine HMS Trenchant, I knew it was safe because it was my father's job to dive and surface the boat. Would not happen today with all the Health & Safety regulations. Now one thing I would like is the send off that Churchill received especially the last railway journey. That whole style of train takes me back to my youth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LgjZmkf7yE [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LgjZmkf7yE] (railway section of Churchill's funeral). For a fuller version of a stylish funereal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC1WEdgXKEI [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC1WEdgXKEI] Now if you want to understand Churchill's way of speaking then watch this video with Boris Johnson (ex Mayor of London) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLak2IzIv7U#t=219.93993 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLak2IzIv7U#t=219.93993] Churchill's wit was something for which he was noted https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc1_A-hDsAs [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc1_A-hDsAs] I have a small book "The wicked wit of Winston Churchill" that has some great put downs. My favourite being a lady, I believe it was Lady Astor, meet Churchill and told him he was drunk. He responded, Madam I may be drunk and you are ugly, but in the morning I will be sober! If you enjoy a good read then try Churchill's History of the English Speaking Peoples, it comes in four volumes and is very readable and suitable for Americans as it was written by a man whose mother was American. If none of that interests you then you can always sit down and design the next generation of manual Legacy and put it into production. As for me I think reading Churchill, improving my hand tool wood working skills and possibly CNC is the way forward if nature gives me time. Cheers Roger Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 [http://bit.ly/1PH8eIw] From: Richard Ellis Received: 06/04/2017 09:29:49 +01:00 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills CC: rchrd....@gmail.com, legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Good old Winston, Where is my cigar and whiskey, is that what he asked !!!!!!!!!?????? I wonder if we may see a similar non cnc being built. Or something else in the wood working line . Look what you have started, all this coffin malarkey, Please Have some sympathy for me as I have been a great great grandfather for some time. Richard On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 5:50:19 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote: Hi Richard I also signed OSA and like wise in commerce I have signed similar documents but where I receive Commercial in Confidence information it stays with me. Only a couple of hours ago I was told something in Commercial in Confidence, and in the last couple months other things have come along and so "Mum's the word". I am only doing what Winston Churchill asked! Cheers Roger Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 [http://bit.ly/1PH8eIw] From: Richard Ellis Received: 05/04/2017 17:41:17 +01:00 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills CC: rchrd....@gmail.com, legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com Roger I know about the O.S.A.s (official secrets acts ) but as I, was also in the R.A.F. This little bit of secrecy is taking it too far, by the way ,I too served on a a couple of Signal units in Germany close to the East German border. We also had the British army with us but no red caps, just us. Had a spell up on the Baltic coast also. Before I joined up in the RAF for the second time I had a spell in the Merchant Navy, P&O Liners and Esso Tankers. I think C .G. was in the U.S Navy All great fun Richard On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 1:27:32 PM UTC+1, ITwoodwork wrote: The answer is no I have not used it and probably won't. But wait and see. Roger & out! Sent from TouchMail for Windows 10 [http://bit.ly/1PH8eIw] From: Richard Ellis Received: 05/04/2017 13:11:01 +01:00 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Thanks Roger Have you used your LOM yet??? The answer that you gave in line "a" is about right as far as Legacy is concerned , I myself would not ever buy anything from them with their practice of not answering Emails. I have been running my own company for a very great time and would never have treated my customers like they appear to do. As I did say before, you see things in a different light as one of their dealers/agents I have dealt with Yandles and in my opinion are a great firm, be a bit expensive to make coffins nowadays from Elm, I have felled thousands of the trees before and after the Elm disease such a shame as next to Oak was my favorite tree. Cheers Richard On Wednesday, April 5, 2017 at 10:25:18 AM UTC+1, Richard Ellis wrote: Perhaps Roger can help------------- been wondering if my Woodchuck was the only one ever imported to the U.K. and of course how many L.O.M.s are there over here. Also wondering how the sales of the C.N.C.s at the Newark U.K. woodworking show went -------did they sell many?? Don't seem to hear anything about the show on any of the woodworking forums. 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