Re: Re: Do you use your template follower On your Legacy Ornamental Mill

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Curtis,
I think if you use a small pointed "Follower Tip", like the Shopsmith (SS) set-up, and an appropriately small router bit, you should be able to come very close to making an acceptable copy.  You would probably save time by using the LOM Follower set-up to create the basic shape.  Then switch over to the SS follower set-up to create the details desired to make the copy as close to the original as possible.
Mac

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From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Feb 18, 2018 12:53 PM
To: "legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com"
Subject: Re: Re: Do you use your template follower On your Legacy Ornamental Mill

Hello again.

along the lines of what is a template follower on the Legacy, The term is somewhat confusing.

Most people think of the template follower as a way to make exact re-productions. On the Legacy

I find this view is not exactly accurate, the template follower is a guide, as far as I see it.

It is great for detail work where a  router bit bearing can not be used. and you can keep a general

shape of an idiom using the template. 

But to use a template to make an exact copy???  "Well" may-be? but ...

Ive not been able to do it.  And I dont think it/ the  template follower is best suited for it...

got a run.

C.A.G.

On Sunday, February 18, 2018 12:19 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hello Ron

I like the idea. And cant wait to see what you come up with...

Please take lots of pictures.

C.A.G.

On Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:20 AM, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Curt

Sorry for getting back to you so late. I have been very busy and it doesn't take much at 83. I was thinking of making "L" brackets mounted to the top back rails.The brackets would have a slot in them for a sliding metal plate with a threaded hole. A screw with a pointed end would thread into the hole in the metal plate. This screw would be used to install the original turning. This is much like the template holder for the Shop Smith duplicator turnings. Alignment procedures would be the same for each. Large turnings can be done by the follower being pushed against the template on the near side and cutting would be on the near side of the turning.

Regards,

Ron

Hello Ronald

using the original is not as easy as you would think on the Legacy, the brackets are made to hold flat templates. If you could mount the original idiom on the brackets, then you are also limited as for spacing/ clearance of the follower.

ONE other benefit of  using my suggested method is locating or positioning the work. If you mount the template/ board, in such a way it only can be mounted in that position after tracing out the pattern, it would much easier to re-align, in the future...

I use my Shop Smith duplicator a lot, for rough turnings, and then The Legacy to do the finals depending on what I  want to make. but ... When there is a will there is always a way. I believe that no one machine is its own in all-be-all , do everything machine.  EVERYTHING has its purpose and its place. AND Its just up to us, to figure out what that place is??? ;-)

I got to run.

Have a good day.

C.A.G.

On Sunday, February 4, 2018 7:54 AM, 'Ronald Kirchoff' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Curt

Why not use the original as the pattern to follow. Mounting it to a set of brackets attached to the out side of the top rails. This is like the Shop Smith duplicator with the router attached to the duplicator arm.

Ron (the math guy)

In a message dated 2/3/2018 7:14:21 PM Eastern Standard Time, legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com writes:

Hello Everyone.

an Idea cam to me today, (while driving home form work.)  I have not done this on my Legacy but have done it with my Lathe.

The idea is to use the Template follower on the Legacy as a Template Maker to produce template that you can reproduce.

If you put an already made spindle in between the centers on the Legacy, then set up a blank template ( just a sheet of piece of wood/hardboard/plastic) on the template holder.

If you put a copying router bit, (or any bit with a ball bearing guide on it.)  You can trace the turning.

Now all that you need to do it , put a pencil or marker mounted on the Legacy's follower (where the guild normally is placed.)

When you run your ball bearing bit along the spindle, the follower (with the marker on it.) will trace the spindle, leaving you with the marker's out-line of  your new template. then all you need to do is cut it out, and then re-mount the template in your original location, to make copy/ re-production of the spindle.

Now what can make this fun, is Make any spindle you want, and once done, you can use the same set-up as I described. to copy your original, so you can make more...

The Legacy's template follower can be used for many things other then just re-producing from start to finish idioms.

The Legacy is NOT a copy lathe, but it can be used as one.

I personalty use the template follower for detail work, like side reeding a thin spindle, where I know a side cutting bit router bearing will slip and under cut what I plan to make. (exp. the cups that I have made over the last few weekends)

Legacy made a few y ears ago, a video called Profile following. in this video they used a template to make a number of different idioms by using the follower.

The sky is the limit.

By using some simple ideas. you can make much more then you ever dreamed of.

What do you all think? any and all comments are (as always) Welcome.

C.A.G.

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