Re: Questionable E-bay sale

Mon, 09 Sep 2019 10:48:00 -0700

I just checked the eBay listing - and there have been NO additional photos added to his posting.
I have said (and will continue to contend) that IMHO that eBay listing of the LOM is a legit one. (My gut feeling.)
I think there is no need to fret this one's "existence"!

On the OTHER hand - there IS one on eBay that is (and has been) VERY SUSPECT! 
It is this one out in Gardena, California - "Legacy CNC Ornamental wood working machine"
I suggest if someone is wanting to ferret out bogus Mill listings, they start with this one.  I know several Members have commented on it (me included) - but so far, no Member in the area of Gardena has been there to check it out. 
If we are lucky, Mike P. or NY Joe will make a roadtrip out there and check it out sometime this Autumn. LoL
Mac
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From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Sep 9, 2019 9:29 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questionable E-bay sale

Thank you Steve.

C.A.G.
On Monday, September 9, 2019, 08:56:20 AM EDT, Steve Drake <skdjm...@gmail.com> wrote:

I emailed him as well recommending more pictures and information and about him parting it out if it doesn't sell.  This is what I got.

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Thank you for the feedback. I have added more pictures like you suggested. They were from a Legacy catalogs of accessory items that I purchased. I chose to use catalog images because they included descriptions and functions better than I could have provided. I didn't include pictures of the mobility casters. I installed casters that I purchased locally. I also made a molding table myself instead of buying one. I purchased a set of spiral drive gears but I don't remember if they are a .25X reduction set or a 2X gear multiplier. I will try to ID them later. I hope this will fill in most of the information gaps that you said would be helpful.

My plan is to list the mill for one month. I don't want to keep paying selling fees to ebay if it doesn't sell. I've thought about what you said about your interest in buying parts of the mill and I'm not interested in selling just parts. I'm flexible about the price for the complete mill system. If it doesn't sell, I will remove it from ebay and just keep it. I'm a hobbyist woodworker and I'm finding other hobbies that interest me for now. I decided to market the mill because I wasn't using it as much as I was using my other tools and equipment. In fact, I've tapered off making any woodworking projects for now. Later on, I can always resume making things with it if the interest returns. I hope this answers any questions that you might have had.

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He feels that the pictures from the catalog are more descriptive then a picture of the tool itself.  

Steve

On Sunday, September 8, 2019 at 12:20:07 PM UTC-4, Curt George wrote:
Legacy Ornamental Mill, model 1200. Unit creates various wood moldings such as spindles, spirals, and fluted rope moldings. Many other molding profiles can be made on the mill. Create moldings and turnings without using a lathe. Included with the mill are many optional accessories such as a z-axis carriage, mobility kit, thin template and thin stock follower, 5 router bits, and 4x gear package and several more. All of which when purchased new totaling over $2,150.00. 
All of the assembly, operation, and accessory documents as well as training videos are included as well as web site access. Can make CNC quality moldings for a fraction of the cost. The mil sold new for $2,995 plus over $2,150.00 in optional accessories. Free shipping with full sale price only.
If not picked up locally, time will be needed to disassemble and carefully identify the sub-assemblies for shipment so that the purchaser will be able to reassemble the unit without much difficulty. Additionally, the complete original assembly instructions will be provided.


Hello Everyone,  Yesterday I posted this one. but it was placed under the other e-bay 1000ex. posting.

This one has me wondering???  To me it looks to be. A military grade case of Dis-information.  
There is just enough proof that this is real. (Parts that are shown) you would only have if you owned the machine.  like the Z axis templates...    Only three router bits look to have been used, everything else looks brand new.
The only thing I know to be sure is, A design kit. and a set of Plaster dogs.  (AND For Tim Z. the only set of steady rest plastic guides that I have ever seen, out side of a catalog.)

This might be a scam? or its a new machine that was NEVER Put together. Other wise you would see pictures for the machine not photos form the Legacy Catalog.

Something to think about?  

A X4 gear package!!! ( I missed that on the first view!) 

When someone offer's you EVERYTHING with out proof. the Yankee Trader Motto comes to mind.  "Buyer Beware".

C.A.G.

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