Hi Joe,

I don't mind the questions at all.  I am completely a hobbyist so no
pressures or expectations around making money for a business or training
others.  I don't use it often enough to have muscle memory so each time I
go back, I have to figure things out a bit again.  From my limited
experience, I say limited because I can tell many of you have used your LOM
for much longer than I have, I found the CNC version to give me more
accurate milling and it was faster.  If I was as proficient as many of you
seem to be, I may not have that view.  When I figured out how the software
worked, I was able to do some things that were a bit unique and even did
some work directly in the Gcode.  Because my professional life is in IT,
half the fun was in figuring things out.

I posted many months ago about my custom gazebo project that I was
hoping to finish this year but I got side tracked on other projects this
year so hopefully I'll finish it up next year.  The balusters on my lower
rails I did with my 1500.  I made about 50 of these balusters before I got
the CNC version.  They were all about 3 feet tall and I started with 4x4
redwood posts.  I did the traditional rope twist, barely twist and a couple
flute designs.  I got good at doing them quickly.  When I got my CNC
version, I used it to do the large 6x6 posts (7 feel long) and about 150
smaller spindles for the upper rail. I also used it to make the balusters
for the final bottom rail.  I still have about 100 more smaller spindles to
make for the upper rail over the entry and the second tier.

Here are some links to the pictures I posted previously:
Lower rails and Posts:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!searchin/legacy-ornamental-mills/gazebo%7Csort:date/legacy-ornamental-mills/m9RAH_NZdus/qq8oFMJ3BQAJ
Upper rails:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer#!searchin/legacy-ornamental-mills/gazebo%7Csort:date/legacy-ornamental-mills/YQRK74hviVw/IgiSIeJJAgAJ

The spindle software that came from Legacy was pretty simple and easy to
use so there isn't too much training on that.  The tricky part, for me, was
getting Mach 3 to talk to the CNC.  That took time but now that it is
working, I should be good to go for a while.  The CNC LOM is not supported
from Legacy but I took one of their CNC classes which helped me a ton.  If
I was doing a lot of turnings for a business, these LOM CNCs are a good
value compared to what it costs to buy new.  Having used both, I definitely
prefer the CNC LOM.  If you were to really look closely at my work, the CNC
spindles and balusters are much more accurate.  One of the problems though
is if a mistake is made on the CNC, it is much harder (usually have to
scrap and start over) to correct then a mistake on the manual LOM. This is
likely more of an issue with my lack of experience though.

More than happy to help with any other questions.  Feel free to email me
directly if you want to get into more details.

Thanks,
Tracy

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 1:14 PM 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Tracy!... thanks for the reply... you are just the person to shed some
> light on my question(s)… hopefully I will ask a question or two that you
> can answer that does not put you in a position of answering a personal or
> business question in a public forum, such as this group... vague,
> non-specific answers work also... the Legacy CNC, if you are using it for a
> billable-type job, would you say it is paying you a proper amount, on a per
> hour basis?... if you were to do a single piece, would there be a savings
> of time if you did that one piece on a manual Legacy as compared to doing
> the same piece on a CNC Legacy?... there are times I will take on a job
> that pushes the limits of what we can do here in the shop and there is a
> bit of a learning curve taking place... as a business, I have learned to
> accept the fact that we might not make as much as I might think, on a per
> hour basis, but I justify taking on the job in the first place by saying
> that if we ever get another, similar-type job, we will have the experience
> to do it and make what we should be making... this is the catch 22 of going
> to CNC... can any business afford to go through the learning curve?... now,
> if it is more of a hobby setting, or second income situation, and you feel
> like spending some of the kid's inheritance money, well then I say go for
> it, LOL!... learn the computer aspect of CNCing and have some fun with
> it!... for the record, I have the Legacy CNC package that originally came
> with the 1800 that I purchased, used... it was never installed and the
> machine was set up as a manual machine... I combined it with a 1500, to
> make a very large capacity Legacy mill, but still kept the CNC equipment in
> its wrappings, as I wanted the people in the shop to run the machine, and
> they were not capable of learning to use a computer for the task at hand...
> anyway, thanks for your time... might have another question or two later...
> my best... Joe B.
>
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