Thanks Roger 

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> On May 9, 2020, at 12:46 PM, Bawdsey64 <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Denson
> 
> Don't use the 75 year old newbie label here, that is young!  Plus anyway it 
> is only a number. Apparently I am, according to my birth certificate, 78 this 
> year but the guy I see in the morning is no older than 25​. Hence my comment 
> it is only a number and does Bill down under want to buy my magic mirror?
> 
> Stick with Magnate, damn good cutters and I sold a fair few of them when I 
> was Legacy's European Agent and only had 3 or 4 that were out of spec.Cheers
> 
> Roger in UK.
> 
> 
> ​
> 
> 
> 
> ​
> From: 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Received: 09/05/2020 18:30:28 +01:00
> To: [email protected]
> Thanks for all the help. I’m sure, as a 75 year old newbie, I’ll be back.
> Oh just thought of another question. 
> Does any company such as MLCS make a set of router bits to equal Magnate sets?
> 
> Sent from Denson's iPhone
> 
> On May 9, 2020, at 10:39 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> ​
> Good morning, still can not find the profile follower photos... ;-(
> 
> Denson for manuals send Tim a e-mail. he has all that info. on file.
> 
> As for the Z axis topic.   
> 
> Amazon is awesome for things like this.
> 
> As for me, I really like the R&P (Rack and Pinon) controls, I find it better 
> all the way around form using a lead screw. (personal preference )
> 
> I also think that a 5"- 7" depth is all that is needed for most jobs, there 
> is no reasoning to go with a monster set-up, it just cost to much money, and 
> is not worth the added expense. 
> https://www.amazon.com/Linear-Actuator-Ballscrew-Double-Optical/dp/B07RLF9DPL/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=z+axis&qid=1589038200&sr=8-8
>  
> I use this as an example, 
> 
> $148.99
>  
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> 
> $156.60
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> 
> $169.99
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> 
> $189.99
>  
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> 
> $219.00
>  
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> 
> $239.00
> 
> 
>   I have also have started using a smaller router motor  (to limit the 
> weight)  For Me, I find the 3 1/2 horse PC router that Legacy rec emended is 
> a huge over kill, The Alum. rails and bushings cannot handle the tork of this 
> kind of motor cutting at full depth of cut. I find for my Legacy, a 1 1/2 or 
> 1 3/4 horse power is plenty of power for cutting most wood projects. 
> 
> Side Note to Bill & Joe.  Do you have any photos of your Z axis's you both 
> made? Also Joe... YOUR monster Z axis was breathtaking to see, I would very 
> much like your input on this as well, Do you think I am correct? or not... 
> "everything has it purpose and place".  ;-)
> 
> Have a good day everyone, Keep this topic going, it a lot of fun... ;-)
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
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> On Saturday, May 9, 2020, 09:39:07 AM EDT, 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy 
> Ornamental Mills <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
> Thanks to all of you. Good information.
> 
> One more question. Does anyone know where I can get the template for design 
> work? Also any instructional books or videos on the LOM 1200?
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Denson
> 
>  
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
>  
> 
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 12:33 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Question on the Legacy's Z axis
> 
>  
> 
> Hello again. One more note.
> 
> Amazon has lots of Z axis and Linear rail that the prices are pretty good. It 
> might not hurt to look some of them up, Just perhaps you will be able to find 
> something that you can add to your machines? Perhaps something like this...
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/Linear-Actuator-Ballscrew-Double-Optical/dp/B07RLF9DPL/ref=sr_1_12?d
>  ​
> 
> ​
> 
> Linear Stage Actuator 100mm 
> 
>  
> 
> Have a good night.
> 
>  
> 
> C.A.G.
> 
>  
> 
> On Saturday, May 9, 2020, 01:27:14 AM EDT, <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
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> 
> Stop build it then fix any issues as they happen I think, a plunge router on 
> a Z axis is needed if it’s a tilting router on the Z axis​
> 
>  ​
> 
> Bill​
> 
>  ​
> 
> From: [email protected] 
> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, 9 May 2020 2:58 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Question on the Legacy's Z axis
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Bob,​
> 
>  ​
> 
> Have you tried looking at the top-hat bushings? They can be rotated to 
> another spot and they will be like brand new.​
> 
>  ​
> 
> To all,​
> 
> Their were 3 designs that I’m aware of.  The last design did have a plunge 
> rod like the plunge routers to help with the plunge problem. ​
> 
>  ​
> 
> Another more frequently written about is how the first version, there is a 
> stop on the left side. In use, it is driven down by the power of the acme 
> thread and that causes the router to plunge deeper.  For that a showed an 
> example rework of the stop.  It’s somewhere buried in the old messages. It’s 
> probably in 2012.​
> 
>  ​
> 
> I’ve never seen anyone use a plunge router in a z-axis design. I’ve thought 
> about it and I think it’s not needed.​
> 
>  ​
> 
> Sitting in my shop there are parts for a z-axis for the newer style machines, 
> but I’ve not finished the design yet. Curt keeps nudging with new ideas, and 
> at some point you just need to freeze a design and build it.  Fix any issues 
> on the next one and hopefully the third one will work!​
> 
>  ​
> 
> -Tim​
> 
>  ​
> 
> From: [email protected] 
> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bob Mark
> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 11:33 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Question on the Legacy's Z axis
> 
>  
> 
> I have the crank style Z axis with digital readout. It uses a height bar 
> setup. You dial in the height and lock the bar. Then try to reproduce that 
> height, no way. As the router drops, the z carriage cocks a little to one 
> side and goes deeper than set. I have done all I can think of to take the 
> play out of the carriage, but to no avail. When i purchased this upgrade i 
> thought it was cool.  Not so much now. When the router is running it will 
> settle some on its own. I will eventually come up with somehing.
> 
> Sent from Bob Mark's iPad
> 
>  
> 
> On May 8, 2020, at 6:57 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> ​
> 
> Hello Everyone.​
> 
>  ​
> 
> I was asked in a private e-mail about the Legacy's Z axis. The Gentleman owns 
> a model 1200 and wants more...​
> 
>  ​
> 
> Now Everyone here knows that Legacy no longer sells the parts he wants. I 
> suggested that the question be brought up to the group. (so that's why I am 
> posting this question to the group.)​
> 
>  ​
> 
> Everyone here knows that I made my Own Z axis For my Legacy 1000ex. ,(So, I 
> will be adding my own 2 cents on this topic latter.)  Has anyone else made 
> there own? or have any plans to try to?​
> 
>  ​
> 
> Part 2 of the question.​
> 
> A lot of people own the Original Z axis that Legacy made.  What's the Pro's 
> and Con's of it. What do you like and or dis-like about it.  ​
> 
> Is there anything about it you would change? and if so how? and why?​
> 
>  ​
> 
> Any and all ideas or thoughts are welcome.​
> 
>  ​
> 
> Have a good day.​
> 
>  ​
> 
> C.A.G.​
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