Good morning everyone.
If Im not mistaken the profile grinder is (with a grain of salt) like a key 
copier.  your make a pattern and use that pattern to cut the part.
C.A.G. 
    On Saturday, September 25, 2021, 06:42:16 AM EDT, Tim Ziegler 
<timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Hey Bill,
We would have to make a jig to slide on the main grinding arbor. We had them at 
WoodCraft, and we had made them. I'll sketch up something to give you an idea. 
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. ZieglerZiegler WoodWork & Specialty14171 160th Ave.Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop320-630-2243 cell

On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 5:33 AM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:


I know their lathe copier great tool also their Carbide cutter I always meant 
to buy one but I have never seen their profile copying grinding machine ,I’m 
not sure how you would grind a router bit on it.

 

Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
<legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 2:28 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for new miniature profile router bits

 

Hello Guys.

 

Thank you for the offer Tim. ( I just may take you up on it, sometime in the 
future.)

 

Veil is an Canadian company, I have bought form them in the past, there profile 
grinder looks neat. I think there lathe copier is one of the best that Ive seen 
for the price.  You should check it out for your self Bill.   My old link no  
longer works. but this one dose.   
https://www.elitetools.ca/en/brand/viel-tools/  I hope they survived the 
pandemic? 

 

talk to you all more latter.

Have a good night.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, September 24, 2021, 10:39:34 PM EDT, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: 

 

 

Thank you tim . I have never seen or heard of a Viel Grinder 

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 12:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for new miniature profile router bits

 

Hey Bill yes we can get blank bits. I am not sure how big or wide of diameter 
is available but

if I do some digging tomorrow I will let you know. i have to try remembering 
which company I ordered

from too. Stay tuned on that.  Then you'll have to buy a Viel Grinder though LOL


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 6:55 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:


Router blanks? Do you mean like a blank router bit to grind your own profile 
on. That would me handy to me if they made really big ones I need a 3 inch dia 
corbox bit and to get one made is extremely expensive

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
<legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Saturday, 25 September 2021 4:14 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for new miniature profile router bits

 

I know we used to buy router blanks all the time when I was at WoodCraft. 
Pretty sure if I looked up the 

data I could still get them. I kept all my contact information when I left as I 
purchased for my own use from 

many of my suppliers through my business as well. So many I had my own account 
with too. 

I can grind router bits on my Viel Grinder Curt. 


Kind Regards,

 

Timothy J. Ziegler

Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty

14171 160th Ave.

Foreston MN 56330

 

320-294-5798 shop

320-630-2243 cell

 

 

On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 9:37 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
<legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Hello and good morning.

 

those are good, but sadly most profiles are not good for the work I want to do, 
they would, (most of them) would have to be modified.  to make the cuts that I 
want to make.

 

An example, Mikes home made roping bit, he used on his carriage indexing video. 
the profile is nice but the depth of cut is much shallower than what you can 
find in any router profile on the market. How about a long shallow cove lets 
say 2" wide but only 1/2" deep. (just an example.)  Not complex profiles that 
need to be made, but simple ones that can fill the void that  you just cant 
buy.  

On a different scale, Legacy did it years ago to make a huge barley twist bit, 
(sold by Magnate) for there machines some years back...

 

Just something to think about.

 

I need to go to work now.

 

talk to you all more latter.

 

C.A.G.

 

On Friday, September 24, 2021, 04:00:19 AM EDT, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: 

 

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253530652761?hash=item3b079ac059:g:e1kAAOSwg4tbHxFu

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/153141184775?hash=item23a7ed0907:g:3VYAAOSwoJxbdO2I

 

if this helps  Bill

 

From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
<legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> 
Sent: Friday, 24 September 2021 2:23 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Looking for new miniature profile router bits

 

Hello Brigitte

Dremel bits are a good idea.  I will have to look into this idea some more. 
they are cheap to buy, HHS. and would not be all that hard to modify, if 
necessary.    defiantly something to look into.  although I am not aware of how 
many profiles they make.

 

Thank You, My Legacy Lady.  ;-)

 

C.A.G.

On Thursday, September 23, 2021, 03:52:29 AM EDT, Brigitte Graham 
<brigittegraha...@gmail.com> wrote: 

 

 

Curt,

I should think that Dremel Drill router bits would be suitable for what you 
need? (Depending on whether your Portacable will take 3mm~1/8th shank on the 
bits?)

Brigitte

 

On Thu, 23 Sept 2021 at 05:57, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
<legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Hello

Years ago Rockler woodworking shops sold a miniature profile route bits, I 
bought a few back then but have not seen anything like them since.

Today I found this.

https://www.wonkeedonkeetrend.co.uk/trend-router-cutters-for-specific-applications/doll-s-house-router-cutters/

 

Doll house router cutters.  I have no idea on the quality, OR prices?  but this 
is the first site that sells router bits like what I want.  I know Amana sells 
some miniature profiles, but I either already own the ones I want, or the price 
it outside my confront zone. (If I need something I buy it, but if I just want 
something, then I do my research and or make it my self.) (being Frugal 
sometimes is a pain! ) ;-p  

In the past I tried to re-grind my own HSS router bits, but those days are all 
but gone. 


Mike offered the group to have some custom cut carbide bits made a few years 
ago.  I also know that Magnate will custom make profiles. (but I've not used 
there services as yet.) 

 

Dose anyone know, and or have the knowledge to make your own profiles/ tricks 
and ways of doing so?

 

Can Carbide router bits be re-ground to new profiles?

 

Any and all ideas are up for topic.

 

talk to you all more latter.

 

C.A.G.

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