There are a few woodchuck owners in the group ask away someone will help
Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robert Seliger Sent: Friday, 6 May 2022 1:25 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Digest for legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com - 16 updates in 3 topics I bought a woodchuck model IRT-33P on ebay. The manual is useless and there are no photos. Does anyone in the group have this model and would they be willing to help me with questions. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Robert Seliger On Wed, May 4, 2022, 10:06 PM <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/legacy-ornamental-mills/topics> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> Google Groups <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> Topic digest <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/legacy-ornamental-mills/topics> View all topics * Brett Giger's recent work - 6 Updates * Access to Legacy ornamental mills group - 5 Updates * Legacy projects - 5 Updates <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/t/9b09ac1366c2c055?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> Brett Giger's recent work Brett Giger <brettgiger1...@gmail.com <mailto:brettgiger1...@gmail.com> >: May 04 11:36AM -0700 Thanks man,been down for the count,starting to come around slowly,my lady got pissed at me for sneakin down tryin to make a couple passes on my legacy lol Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> >: May 04 05:13PM -0500 Sounds like you have the LOM fever like the rest of us. Tell her it's good therapy and you get well faster with the LOM method. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> &utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> &utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAHoUWTt_E1ZGiJ9%3D0peFskxqVVtSBKDi-6Doow1FRV-6PfxVig%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAHoUWTt_E1ZGiJ9%3D0peFskxqVVtSBKDi-6Doow1FRV-6PfxVig%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAHoUWTt_E1ZGiJ9%3D0peFskxqVVtSBKDi-6Doow1FRV-6PfxVig%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > &utm_source=footer> > . <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> &utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> &utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> David Mann <gcdav...@yahoo.com <mailto:gcdav...@yahoo.com> >: May 04 09:05PM -0500 They look awesome! I’d be curious as to how to figure the start/pitch/diameter formula. The manual gives some easy calculations for the rope/barley twist spirals, and how diameter and starts affects the pit. I’m guessing if you are using a 1/2” bit, and taking away 1/2” on each side of the material you want to leave, we’ll say 1/2” for example, that would total 1 1/2”’s and a 3 start would require the 4.5” pitch gear? So everything is even top and bottom? Or if you left 1” of material would make it 2”, or the 6” pitch gear for a 3 start…… the Geiger Spiral, really liking the looks of these! Thanks for posting these, David Sent from my iPhone <bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >: May 05 12:53PM +1000 To keep it simple the number of starts increases the pitch by the dia of the cutter So a barly or rope single start spiral with a say a 2 inch wide bit You would have 2inch bit, 2inch pitch , 2 inch dia work A 2 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 4 inch pitch A 3 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 6 inch pitch A 4 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 8 inch pitch And so on for each start after you finish the first start you disengage the leadscrew nut and slide the saddle along 2inches and reengage the leadscrew nut and commence to mill the second start and repeat if you have more starts. The dia of the work can vary but the relationship between the router bit , the number of starts and the pitch generally has to stay to maintain a even pitch without gaps or overlaps. My triple spiral part 3 video shows this process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs&t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> &t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> &t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181 and how I do it. Others use a different method all work ok. Bill From: 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:05 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Brett Giger's recent work They look awesome! I’d be curious as to how to figure the start/pitch/diameter formula. The manual gives some easy calculations for the rope/barley twist spirals, and how diameter and starts affects the pit. I’m guessing if you are using a 1/2” bit, and taking away 1/2” on each side of the material you want to leave, we’ll say 1/2” for example, that would total 1 1/2”’s and a 3 start would require the 4.5” pitch gear? So everything is even top and bottom? Or if you left 1” of material would make it 2”, or the 6” pitch gear for a 3 start…… the Geiger Spiral, really liking the looks of these! Thanks for posting these, David Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > > wrote: Good morning Group, Brett Giger asked me to download this to the group to show us some of the recent turnings he has produced on his Legacy. Great work Brett, awesome to see your square turnings as well. Tell us some of the processes and bits you have used? What wood species are you using? Are you making some lamps with any of those turnings? On behalf of Brett Giger Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . 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To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/E0DE4DC6-A56D-46F5-959F-2C8D4F3AF6FC%40yahoo.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/E0DE4DC6-A56D-46F5-959F-2C8D4F3AF6FC%40yahoo.com?utm_medium=email <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/E0DE4DC6-A56D-46F5-959F-2C8D4F3AF6FC%40yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> &utm_source=footer> . David Mann <gcdav...@yahoo.com <mailto:gcdav...@yahoo.com> >: May 04 10:16PM -0500 I got that , thanks Bill. It’s easier to keep it simple using a shaper type bit with a certain diameter. So the hollow spiral you drop a 1/2” bit between the 1 1/2” rope twist spirals, ( loosing a 1/4” each side) and leaving 1” of material making the hollow twist. Just trying to figure this without using a shaper type bit….. seems the center of the gap usimf a 1/2” straight bit would be considered the same as the center of the rope twist bit which gets removed in the hollowing out process. Those Gieger twist pieces look to be 3 start, but possibly 4. Definitely interesting looking pieces of wood! Thanks, David Sent from my iPhone <bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >: May 05 02:21PM +1000 Usually you use a strait bit in the bottom of the spiral and hollow spirals are usually barley router bits And the strait bit is usually about as wide as bottom part of the spiral this is opsional there is no set rule Another way is to do this and join the halves together and mill the spiral then hollow it There is some info on both these methods I will see if I can find it later right now I have to go talk later Bill From: 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 1:16 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Brett Giger's recent work I got that , thanks Bill. It’s easier to keep it simple using a shaper type bit with a certain diameter. So the hollow spiral you drop a 1/2” bit between the 1 1/2” rope twist spirals, ( loosing a 1/4” each side) and leaving 1” of material making the hollow twist. Just trying to figure this without using a shaper type bit….. seems the center of the gap usimf a 1/2” straight bit would be considered the same as the center of the rope twist bit which gets removed in the hollowing out process. Those Gieger twist pieces look to be 3 start, but possibly 4. Definitely interesting looking pieces of wood! Thanks, David Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2022, at 9:53 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: To keep it simple the number of starts increases the pitch by the dia of the cutter So a barly or rope single start spiral with a say a 2 inch wide bit You would have 2inch bit, 2inch pitch , 2 inch dia work A 2 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 4 inch pitch A 3 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 6 inch pitch A 4 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 8 inch pitch And so on for each start after you finish the first start you disengage the leadscrew nut and slide the saddle along 2inches and reengage the leadscrew nut and commence to mill the second start and repeat if you have more starts. The dia of the work can vary but the relationship between the router bit , the number of starts and the pitch generally has to stay to maintain a even pitch without gaps or overlaps. My triple spiral part 3 video shows this process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs&t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> &t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> &t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181 and how I do it. Others use a different method all work ok. Bill From: 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:05 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Brett Giger's recent work They look awesome! I’d be curious as to how to figure the start/pitch/diameter formula. The manual gives some easy calculations for the rope/barley twist spirals, and how diameter and starts affects the pit. I’m guessing if you are using a 1/2” bit, and taking away 1/2” on each side of the material you want to leave, we’ll say 1/2” for example, that would total 1 1/2”’s and a 3 start would require the 4.5” pitch gear? So everything is even top and bottom? Or if you left 1” of material would make it 2”, or the 6” pitch gear for a 3 start…… the Geiger Spiral, really liking the looks of these! Thanks for posting these, David Sent from my iPhone On Apr 25, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > > wrote: Good morning Group, Brett Giger asked me to download this to the group to show us some of the recent turnings he has produced on his Legacy. Great work Brett, awesome to see your square turnings as well. Tell us some of the processes and bits you have used? What wood species are you using? Are you making some lamps with any of those turnings? On behalf of Brett Giger Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . 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To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/BE624031-B2B6-4954-88BB-337BEBB876D8%40yahoo.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/BE624031-B2B6-4954-88BB-337BEBB876D8%40yahoo.com?utm_medium=email <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/BE624031-B2B6-4954-88BB-337BEBB876D8%40yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> &utm_source=footer> . Back to top <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/t/670b5ade7ac6bc60?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> Access to Legacy ornamental mills group "M.W.Foscue" <mwfos...@earthlink.net <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> >: May 04 04:41PM Jeff, Thanks for re-posting. I'd like to print those pages out as well as store them digitally to my files. Would you please send them out one more time - with each pic being its own page. And make all 4 in the vertical format which will simplify reading the image on the screen as well as printing it out. Thanks again. Mac -----Original Message----- From: Sent: May 3, 2022 9:16 PM To: Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group Hi Dave, Here are the photos again but smaller based on Tim’s feedback. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: Hey Great idea to help him out Jeff. thats the greatest help anyone can offer.Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Jeff Richmond wrote: Welcome to the group Dave, I also have a 900 manual benchtop model and have a few of the accessories in your photos. It’s good to see you were able to access the manual. This is a good start. I will see if I can send you some more information later today in addition to what others have offered. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2022, at 10:05 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> (mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> ) wrote: Ok Dave first thing behind the crank handle there should be one gear not 3, haveing that in mind you seem to have all 7 pitch gears. you also have the horizontal vice for doing flat work Also the vertical vice for doing things like box joints, dovetails and such see page 100 and 101 in your manual. You also have the template mounting brackets so you will be able to do template milling work . and you have both left and right hand gear spindle gears so you will be able to do right and left hand spirals. And you have the standard gear set .. what you don’t have is the .25 gear set And the 2X gear set which are optional extras that we all want. oh and I also saw a thin stock support in your stuff The 4 flat square things with a thread in the middle are table nuts and can only be used one way up your you will pull the insert out. All the other odds and ends are for different mountings and such you also have 4 index drive hubs for mounting your work to the mill Ok that’s about all for now if that’s all the stuff you have with your mill there is much more you didn’t get with the mill but there is enough to do quite a variety of work. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> (mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> ) On Behalf Of Dave Sawdon Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 10:52 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group Thanks Curt (and everyone else). I've downloaded the manual now but have only just moved the machine into a shed and haven't had chance to try to work-out what I have. It would be great if I could find an original shipping list (I assume there was one... ?) There are a lot of metal brackets but, at the moment, I have no idea what to do with them ... I'm sure things will be clearer with time. Dave . On Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 21:50:39 UTC+1 Curt George wrote: ONE more note. If you can take a photo of your machine, that way we all can see what is and is not there. I might help? C.A.G. On Sunday, May 1, 2022, 04:47:34 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: Hello again Dave. I suggest that you play with your Legacy as much as you can before trying to start a project. But having said that, Uniformity is the goal. If you are going to do a large batch of spindles, Do "NOT" make each one and try to make them the same. instead do the assembly line process, DO ONE Cut on all spindles at one time, and then move to the second cut and so on... Also if you plan to make that many spindles you will need one or two motors to make the job easer. Legacy sold a carriage drive motor. (I hope you have one?) They also sold on there older and larger machines a spindle drive motor (mainly used for template work and planning cut on spindles. A few people in OUR group have made there own motors /adapted other motors to there Legacy's to get the job done. YOU are welcome to search our archives for this info. I have given you full access to the group. So feel free to ask or suggest anything that you can. THE GOAL is to Learn and grow. Share what you can and in this way WE all can learn together. I wish you luck on your future projects. I can wait to see what you turn UP with. ;-) C.A.G. On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:31:39 PM UTC-4 daves...@gmail.com <mailto:daves...@gmail.com> (mailto:daves...@gmail.com <mailto:daves...@gmail.com> ) wrote: Many thanks to Curt and Bill for opening the door and letting me in. The reason for wanting to join is that I've recently bought a model 900 and need to start up the learning curve. The reason I bought the mill is, primarily, because I need to turn some large'ish custom oak stair spindles and my turning skills are such that I could make 40 or 50 unique spindles on a lathe but am unlikely to be able to make 40 or 50 identical'ish spindles - I hope the Legacy 900 will help me to do that. Is there a diagram or list of parts that should be with a model 900? I'd like to check whether there is anything missing. Dave Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> >: May 04 06:40PM -0400 I will try to scan them into a pdf later today. The info is a bit dated based on the era of my machine (2004?) More accessories may have become available later on but it is a good glimpse in order to identify various pcs. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone <bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >: May 05 10:13AM +1000 Not really they stopped making them later on Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 8:41 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group I will try to scan them into a pdf later today. The info is a bit dated based on the era of my machine (2004?) More accessories may have become available later on but it is a good glimpse in order to identify various pcs. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2022, at 12:41 PM, M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: Jeff, Thanks for re-posting. I'd like to print those pages out as well as store them digitally to my files. Would you please send them out one more time - with each pic being its own page. And make all 4 in the vertical format which will simplify reading the image on the screen as well as printing it out. Thanks again. Mac _____ _____ -----Original Message----- From: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: May 3, 2022 9:16 PM To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group Hi Dave, Here are the photos again but smaller based on Tim’s feedback. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > > wrote: Hey Great idea to help him out Jeff. thats the greatest help anyone can offer. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > > wrote: Welcome to the group Dave, I also have a 900 manual benchtop model and have a few of the accessories in your photos. It’s good to see you were able to access the manual. This is a good start. I will see if I can send you some more information later today in addition to what others have offered. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2022, at 10:05 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Ok Dave first thing behind the crank handle there should be one gear not 3, haveing that in mind you seem to have all 7 pitch gears. you also have the horizontal vice for doing flat work Also the vertical vice for doing things like box joints, dovetails and such see page 100 and 101 in your manual. You also have the template mounting brackets so you will be able to do template milling work . and you have both left and right hand gear spindle gears so you will be able to do right and left hand spirals. And you have the standard gear set .. what you don’t have is the .25 gear set And the 2X gear set which are optional extras that we all want. oh and I also saw a thin stock support in your stuff The 4 flat square things with a thread in the middle are table nuts and can only be used one way up your you will pull the insert out. All the other odds and ends are for different mountings and such you also have 4 index drive hubs for mounting your work to the mill Ok that’s about all for now if that’s all the stuff you have with your mill there is much more you didn’t get with the mill but there is enough to do quite a variety of work. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > On Behalf Of Dave Sawdon Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 10:52 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group Thanks Curt (and everyone else). I've downloaded the manual now but have only just moved the machine into a shed and haven't had chance to try to work-out what I have. It would be great if I could find an original shipping list (I assume there was one... ?) There are a lot of metal brackets but, at the moment, I have no idea what to do with them ... I'm sure things will be clearer with time. Dave . On Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 21:50:39 UTC+1 Curt George wrote: ONE more note. If you can take a photo of your machine, that way we all can see what is and is not there. I might help? C.A.G. On Sunday, May 1, 2022, 04:47:34 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > > wrote: Hello again Dave. I suggest that you play with your Legacy as much as you can before trying to start a project. But having said that, Uniformity is the goal. If you are going to do a large batch of spindles, Do "NOT" make each one and try to make them the same. instead do the assembly line process, DO ONE Cut on all spindles at one time, and then move to the second cut and so on... Also if you plan to make that many spindles you will need one or two motors to make the job easer. Legacy sold a carriage drive motor. (I hope you have one?) They also sold on there older and larger machines a spindle drive motor (mainly used for template work and planning cut on spindles. A few people in OUR group have made there own motors /adapted other motors to there Legacy's to get the job done. YOU are welcome to search our archives for this info. I have given you full access to the group. So feel free to ask or suggest anything that you can. THE GOAL is to Learn and grow. Share what you can and in this way WE all can learn together. I wish you luck on your future projects. I can wait to see what you turn UP with. ;-) C.A.G. On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:31:39 PM UTC-4 daves...@gmail.com <mailto:daves...@gmail.com> <mailto:daves...@gmail.com <mailto:daves...@gmail.com> > wrote: Many thanks to Curt and Bill for opening the door and letting me in. The reason for wanting to join is that I've recently bought a model 900 and need to start up the learning curve. The reason I bought the mill is, primarily, because I need to turn some large'ish custom oak stair spindles and my turning skills are such that I could make 40 or 50 unique spindles on a lathe but am unlikely to be able to make 40 or 50 identical'ish spindles - I hope the Legacy 900 will help me to do that. Is there a diagram or list of parts that should be with a model 900? I'd like to check whether there is anything missing. Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . 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To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4ECBE3E0-EB72-4E0A-AC13-C7C81D4804A1%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4ECBE3E0-EB72-4E0A-AC13-C7C81D4804A1%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4ECBE3E0-EB72-4E0A-AC13-C7C81D4804A1%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> &utm_source=footer> . Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> >: May 04 09:09PM -0400 Lol, that is true Bill I guess what I meant was that the info I have may not be a complete listing of accessories. If we only knew then, what we know now. 🤷♂️ Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone <bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >: May 05 11:31AM +1000 Oh yea, beats me why legacy doesn’t still keep a few accessorises but I guess if your dealing in tens of thousands of dollar mills why bother with us lowly manual operators lol Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:10 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group Lol, that is true Bill I guess what I meant was that the info I have may not be a complete listing of accessories. If we only knew then, what we know now. 🤷♂️ Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2022, at 8:14 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Not really they stopped making them later on Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 8:41 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group I will try to scan them into a pdf later today. The info is a bit dated based on the era of my machine (2004?) More accessories may have become available later on but it is a good glimpse in order to identify various pcs. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On May 4, 2022, at 12:41 PM, M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> > > wrote: Jeff, Thanks for re-posting. I'd like to print those pages out as well as store them digitally to my files. Would you please send them out one more time - with each pic being its own page. And make all 4 in the vertical format which will simplify reading the image on the screen as well as printing it out. Thanks again. Mac _____ _____ -----Original Message----- From: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: May 3, 2022 9:16 PM To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group Hi Dave, Here are the photos again but smaller based on Tim’s feedback. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto:timjzieg...@gmail.com> > > wrote: Hey Great idea to help him out Jeff. thats the greatest help anyone can offer. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > > wrote: Welcome to the group Dave, I also have a 900 manual benchtop model and have a few of the accessories in your photos. It’s good to see you were able to access the manual. This is a good start. I will see if I can send you some more information later today in addition to what others have offered. Jeff from Connecticut Sent from my iPhone On May 3, 2022, at 10:05 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: Ok Dave first thing behind the crank handle there should be one gear not 3, haveing that in mind you seem to have all 7 pitch gears. you also have the horizontal vice for doing flat work Also the vertical vice for doing things like box joints, dovetails and such see page 100 and 101 in your manual. You also have the template mounting brackets so you will be able to do template milling work . and you have both left and right hand gear spindle gears so you will be able to do right and left hand spirals. And you have the standard gear set .. what you don’t have is the .25 gear set And the 2X gear set which are optional extras that we all want. oh and I also saw a thin stock support in your stuff The 4 flat square things with a thread in the middle are table nuts and can only be used one way up your you will pull the insert out. All the other odds and ends are for different mountings and such you also have 4 index drive hubs for mounting your work to the mill Ok that’s about all for now if that’s all the stuff you have with your mill there is much more you didn’t get with the mill but there is enough to do quite a variety of work. Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > On Behalf Of Dave Sawdon Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 10:52 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group Thanks Curt (and everyone else). I've downloaded the manual now but have only just moved the machine into a shed and haven't had chance to try to work-out what I have. It would be great if I could find an original shipping list (I assume there was one... ?) There are a lot of metal brackets but, at the moment, I have no idea what to do with them ... I'm sure things will be clearer with time. Dave . On Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 21:50:39 UTC+1 Curt George wrote: ONE more note. If you can take a photo of your machine, that way we all can see what is and is not there. I might help? C.A.G. On Sunday, May 1, 2022, 04:47:34 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > > wrote: Hello again Dave. I suggest that you play with your Legacy as much as you can before trying to start a project. But having said that, Uniformity is the goal. If you are going to do a large batch of spindles, Do "NOT" make each one and try to make them the same. instead do the assembly line process, DO ONE Cut on all spindles at one time, and then move to the second cut and so on... Also if you plan to make that many spindles you will need one or two motors to make the job easer. Legacy sold a carriage drive motor. (I hope you have one?) They also sold on there older and larger machines a spindle drive motor (mainly used for template work and planning cut on spindles. A few people in OUR group have made there own motors /adapted other motors to there Legacy's to get the job done. YOU are welcome to search our archives for this info. I have given you full access to the group. So feel free to ask or suggest anything that you can. THE GOAL is to Learn and grow. Share what you can and in this way WE all can learn together. I wish you luck on your future projects. I can wait to see what you turn UP with. ;-) C.A.G. On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:31:39 PM UTC-4 daves...@gmail.com <mailto:daves...@gmail.com> <mailto:daves...@gmail.com <mailto:daves...@gmail.com> > wrote: Many thanks to Curt and Bill for opening the door and letting me in. The reason for wanting to join is that I've recently bought a model 900 and need to start up the learning curve. The reason I bought the mill is, primarily, because I need to turn some large'ish custom oak stair spindles and my turning skills are such that I could make 40 or 50 unique spindles on a lathe but am unlikely to be able to make 40 or 50 identical'ish spindles - I hope the Legacy 900 will help me to do that. Is there a diagram or list of parts that should be with a model 900? I'd like to check whether there is anything missing. Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > . 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Back to top <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/t/2611ae4c04427650?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> Legacy projects <bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> >: May 04 06:52PM +1000 I do love that timber Bill -----Original Message----- From: 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2022 11:42 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Legacy projects I saw about a 15-20 second clip from an old promotional video featuring a “south west blanket chest”, and came up with this. 3” corners, 1 1/2” rope twist 2 start, 3” pitch. Pretty easy to build. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. 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