I have wood chuck and so does MIke Pung of course? What do you need to know?
Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 10:25 PM Robert Seliger <robertselige...@gmail.com> wrote: > I bought a woodchuck model IRT-33P on ebay. The manual is useless and > there are no photos. Does anyone in the group have this model and would > they be willing to help me with questions. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > Thank you Robert Seliger > > On Wed, May 4, 2022, 10:06 PM <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > wrote: > >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/legacy-ornamental-mills/topics> >> Google >> Groups >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email/#!overview> >> Topic digest >> View all topics >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/legacy-ornamental-mills/topics> >> >> - Brett Giger's recent work >> <#m_-6431288512295121914_m_2716310505601659719_group_thread_0> - 6 >> Updates >> - Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> <#m_-6431288512295121914_m_2716310505601659719_group_thread_1> - 5 >> Updates >> - Legacy projects >> <#m_-6431288512295121914_m_2716310505601659719_group_thread_2> - 5 >> Updates >> >> Brett Giger's recent work >> <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/t/9b09ac1366c2c055?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> >> Brett Giger <brettgiger1...@gmail.com>: May 04 11:36AM -0700 >> >> Thanks man,been down for the count,starting to come around slowly,my lady >> got pissed at me for sneakin down tryin to make a couple passes on my >> legacy lol >> >> Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com>: May 04 05:13PM -0500 >> >> Sounds like you have the LOM fever like the rest of us. Tell her it's good >> therapy and you get well faster with the LOM method. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> 14171 160th Ave. >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> < >> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >> > >> Virus-free. >> www.avg.com >> < >> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >> > >> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAHoUWTt_E1ZGiJ9%3D0peFskxqVVtSBKDi-6Doow1FRV-6PfxVig%40mail.gmail.com >> > < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAHoUWTt_E1ZGiJ9%3D0peFskxqVVtSBKDi-6Doow1FRV-6PfxVig%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >> > >> > . >> >> < >> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >> > >> Virus-free. >> www.avg.com >> < >> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >> > >> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> David Mann <gcdav...@yahoo.com>: May 04 09:05PM -0500 >> >> They look awesome! I’d be curious as to how to figure the >> start/pitch/diameter formula. The manual gives some easy calculations for >> the rope/barley twist spirals, and how diameter and starts affects the pit. >> I’m guessing if you are using a 1/2” bit, and taking away 1/2” on each side >> of the material you want to leave, we’ll say 1/2” for example, that would >> total 1 1/2”’s and a 3 start would require the 4.5” pitch gear? So >> everything is even top and bottom? Or if you left 1” of material would make >> it 2”, or the 6” pitch gear for a 3 start…… the Geiger Spiral, really >> liking the looks of these! >> >> Thanks for posting these, David >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>: May 05 12:53PM +1000 >> >> To keep it simple the number of starts increases the pitch by the dia of >> the cutter >> >> >> >> So a barly or rope single start spiral with a say a 2 inch wide bit >> >> >> >> You would have 2inch bit, 2inch pitch , 2 inch dia work >> >> A 2 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 4 inch pitch >> >> A 3 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 6 inch pitch >> >> A 4 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 8 inch pitch >> >> >> >> And so on for each start after you finish the first start you disengage >> the leadscrew nut and slide the saddle along 2inches and reengage the >> leadscrew nut and commence to mill the second start and repeat if you have >> more starts. The dia of the work can vary but the relationship between the >> router bit , the number of starts and the pitch generally has to stay to >> maintain a even pitch without gaps or overlaps. >> >> My triple spiral part 3 video shows this process >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs < >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs&t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> >> &t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181 and how I do it. Others use a different >> method all work ok. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:05 PM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Brett Giger's recent work >> >> >> >> They look awesome! I’d be curious as to how to figure the >> start/pitch/diameter formula. The manual gives some easy calculations for >> the rope/barley twist spirals, and how diameter and starts affects the pit. >> I’m guessing if you are using a 1/2” bit, and taking away 1/2” on each side >> of the material you want to leave, we’ll say 1/2” for example, that would >> total 1 1/2”’s and a 3 start would require the 4.5” pitch gear? So >> everything is even top and bottom? Or if you left 1” of material would make >> it 2”, or the 6” pitch gear for a 3 start…… the Geiger Spiral, really >> liking the looks of these! >> >> >> >> Thanks for posting these, David >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 25, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto: >> timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Good morning Group, Brett Giger asked me to download this to the >> >> group to show us some of the recent turnings he has produced on his >> >> Legacy. >> >> Great work Brett, awesome to see your square turnings as well. >> >> Tell us some of the processes and bits you have used? >> >> What wood species are you using? >> >> Are you making some lamps with any of those turnings? >> >> >> >> On behalf of Brett Giger >> >> >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGV%3D8gdXz3OVrrKTC8WZ8Tg_%2BstTVnj%3DCmA1YSm%2BmZo6w%40mail.gmail.com >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGV%3D8gdXz3OVrrKTC8WZ8Tg_%2BstTVnj%3DCmA1YSm%2BmZo6w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/E0DE4DC6-A56D-46F5-959F-2C8D4F3AF6FC%40yahoo.com >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/E0DE4DC6-A56D-46F5-959F-2C8D4F3AF6FC%40yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> David Mann <gcdav...@yahoo.com>: May 04 10:16PM -0500 >> >> I got that , thanks Bill. It’s easier to keep it simple using a shaper >> type bit with a certain diameter. So the hollow spiral you drop a 1/2” bit >> between the 1 1/2” rope twist spirals, ( loosing a 1/4” each side) and >> leaving 1” of material making the hollow twist. Just trying to figure this >> without using a shaper type bit….. seems the center of the gap usimf a 1/2” >> straight bit would be considered the same as the center of the rope twist >> bit which gets removed in the hollowing out process. Those Gieger twist >> pieces look to be 3 start, but possibly 4. Definitely interesting looking >> pieces of wood! Thanks, David >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>: May 05 02:21PM +1000 >> >> Usually you use a strait bit in the bottom of the spiral and hollow >> spirals are usually barley router bits >> >> And the strait bit is usually about as wide as bottom part of the spiral >> this is opsional there is no set rule >> >> Another way is to do this and join the halves together and mill the >> spiral then hollow it >> >> >> >> There is some info on both these methods I will see if I can find it >> later right now I have to go talk later >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 1:16 PM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Brett Giger's recent work >> >> >> >> I got that , thanks Bill. It’s easier to keep it simple using a shaper >> type bit with a certain diameter. So the hollow spiral you drop a 1/2” bit >> between the 1 1/2” rope twist spirals, ( loosing a 1/4” each side) and >> leaving 1” of material making the hollow twist. Just trying to figure this >> without using a shaper type bit….. seems the center of the gap usimf a 1/2” >> straight bit would be considered the same as the center of the rope twist >> bit which gets removed in the hollowing out process. Those Gieger twist >> pieces look to be 3 start, but possibly 4. Definitely interesting looking >> pieces of wood! Thanks, David >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 4, 2022, at 9:53 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto: >> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> >> >> To keep it simple the number of starts increases the pitch by the dia of >> the cutter >> >> >> >> So a barly or rope single start spiral with a say a 2 inch wide bit >> >> >> >> You would have 2inch bit, 2inch pitch , 2 inch dia work >> >> A 2 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 4 inch pitch >> >> A 3 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 6 inch pitch >> >> A 4 start you would have a 2inch bit but a 8 inch pitch >> >> >> >> And so on for each start after you finish the first start you disengage >> the leadscrew nut and slide the saddle along 2inches and reengage the >> leadscrew nut and commence to mill the second start and repeat if you have >> more starts. The dia of the work can vary but the relationship between the >> router bit , the number of starts and the pitch generally has to stay to >> maintain a even pitch without gaps or overlaps. >> >> My triple spiral part 3 video shows this process >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs < >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kr5VFFwsAs&t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181> >> &t=444s&ab_channel=aussiman77181 and how I do it. Others use a different >> method all work ok. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 12:05 PM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Brett Giger's recent work >> >> >> >> They look awesome! I’d be curious as to how to figure the >> start/pitch/diameter formula. The manual gives some easy calculations for >> the rope/barley twist spirals, and how diameter and starts affects the pit. >> I’m guessing if you are using a 1/2” bit, and taking away 1/2” on each side >> of the material you want to leave, we’ll say 1/2” for example, that would >> total 1 1/2”’s and a 3 start would require the 4.5” pitch gear? So >> everything is even top and bottom? Or if you left 1” of material would make >> it 2”, or the 6” pitch gear for a 3 start…… the Geiger Spiral, really >> liking the looks of these! >> >> >> >> Thanks for posting these, David >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 25, 2022, at 5:59 AM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto: >> timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Good morning Group, Brett Giger asked me to download this to the >> >> group to show us some of the recent turnings he has produced on his >> >> Legacy. >> >> Great work Brett, awesome to see your square turnings as well. >> >> Tell us some of the processes and bits you have used? >> >> What wood species are you using? >> >> Are you making some lamps with any of those turnings? >> >> >> >> On behalf of Brett Giger >> >> >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGV%3D8gdXz3OVrrKTC8WZ8Tg_%2BstTVnj%3DCmA1YSm%2BmZo6w%40mail.gmail.com >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/CAMBiJLGV%3D8gdXz3OVrrKTC8WZ8Tg_%2BstTVnj%3DCmA1YSm%2BmZo6w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/E0DE4DC6-A56D-46F5-959F-2C8D4F3AF6FC%40yahoo.com >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/E0DE4DC6-A56D-46F5-959F-2C8D4F3AF6FC%40yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001501d8602b%243e50e9e0%24baf2bda0%24%40mmnet.com.au >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/001501d8602b%243e50e9e0%24baf2bda0%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/BE624031-B2B6-4954-88BB-337BEBB876D8%40yahoo.com >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/BE624031-B2B6-4954-88BB-337BEBB876D8%40yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> Back to top <#m_-6431288512295121914_m_2716310505601659719_digest_top> >> Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/t/670b5ade7ac6bc60?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> >> "M.W.Foscue" <mwfos...@earthlink.net>: May 04 04:41PM >> >> Jeff, >> >> Thanks for re-posting. >> I'd like to print those pages out as well as store them digitally to my >> files. >> Would you please send them out one more time - with each pic being its >> own page. >> And make all 4 in the vertical format which will simplify reading the >> image on the screen as well as printing it out. >> Thanks again. >> Mac >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> Sent: May 3, 2022 9:16 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> >> Hi Dave, >> Here are the photos again but smaller based on Tim’s feedback. >> >> >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 3, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Tim Ziegler wrote: >> >> >> Hey Great idea to help him out Jeff. thats the greatest help anyone can >> offer.Kind Regards, >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> 14171 160th Ave. >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Jeff Richmond wrote: >> Welcome to the group Dave, >> I also have a 900 manual benchtop model and have a few of the accessories >> in your photos. >> >> It’s good to see you were able to access the manual. This is a good start. >> >> I will see if I can send you some more information later today in >> addition to what others have offered. >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On May 3, 2022, at 10:05 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au (mailto: >> bulke...@mmnet.com.au) wrote: >> >> >> Ok Dave first thing behind the crank handle there should be one gear not >> 3, haveing that in mind you seem to have all 7 pitch gears. you also have >> the horizontal vice for doing flat work >> >> Also the vertical vice for doing things like box joints, dovetails and >> such see page 100 and 101 in your manual. You also have the template >> mounting brackets so you will be able to do template milling work . and >> you have both left and right hand gear spindle gears so you will be able to >> do right and left hand spirals. >> And you have the standard gear set .. what you don’t have is the .25 gear >> set >> And the 2X gear set which are optional extras that we all want. oh and >> I also saw a thin stock support in your stuff >> >> >> The 4 flat square things with a thread in the middle are table nuts and >> can only be used one way up your you will pull the insert out. All the >> other odds and ends are for different mountings and such you also have 4 >> index drive hubs for mounting your work to the mill >> >> Ok that’s about all for now if that’s all the stuff you have with your >> mill there is much more you didn’t get with the mill but there is enough to >> do quite a variety of work. >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com (mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com) On Behalf Of Dave Sawdon >> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 10:52 PM >> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills >> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> >> >> Thanks Curt (and everyone else). >> I've downloaded the manual now but have only just moved the machine into >> a shed and haven't had chance to try to work-out what I have. It would be >> great if I could find an original shipping list (I assume there was one... >> ?) >> >> There are a lot of metal brackets but, at the moment, I have no idea what >> to do with them ... I'm sure things will be clearer with time. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> . >> >> On Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 21:50:39 UTC+1 Curt George wrote: >> >> ONE more note. >> >> >> >> If you can take a photo of your machine, that way we all can see what is >> and is not there. I might help? >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, May 1, 2022, 04:47:34 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy >> Ornamental Mills wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again Dave. >> >> >> I suggest that you play with your Legacy as much as you can before trying >> to start a project. >> >> >> >> But having said that, Uniformity is the goal. If you are going to do a >> large batch of spindles, Do "NOT" make each one and try to make them the >> same. instead do the assembly line process, DO ONE Cut on all spindles at >> one time, and then move to the second cut and so on... >> >> Also if you plan to make that many spindles you will need one or two >> motors to make the job easer. Legacy sold a carriage drive motor. (I hope >> you have one?) They also sold on there older and larger machines a spindle >> drive motor (mainly used for template work and planning cut on spindles. >> >> A few people in OUR group have made there own motors /adapted other >> motors to there Legacy's to get the job done. YOU are welcome to search >> our archives for this info. >> >> >> >> I have given you full access to the group. So feel free to ask or suggest >> anything that you can. THE GOAL is to Learn and grow. Share what you can >> and in this way WE all can learn together. >> >> >> >> I wish you luck on your future projects. >> >> I can wait to see what you turn UP with. ;-) >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:31:39 PM UTC-4 daves...@gmail.com (mailto: >> daves...@gmail.com) wrote: >> >> Many thanks to Curt and Bill for opening the door and letting me in. >> >> >> The reason for wanting to join is that I've recently bought a model 900 >> and need to start up the learning curve. >> >> The reason I bought the mill is, primarily, because I need to turn some >> large'ish custom oak stair spindles and my turning skills are such that I >> could make 40 or 50 unique spindles on a lathe but am unlikely to be able >> to make 40 or 50 identical'ish spindles - I hope the Legacy 900 will help >> me to do that. >> >> Is there a diagram or list of parts that should be with a model 900? I'd >> like to check whether there is anything missing. >> >> >> >> Dave >> Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com>: May 04 06:40PM -0400 >> >> I will try to scan them into a pdf later today. >> >> The info is a bit dated based on the era of my machine (2004?) >> >> More accessories may have become available later on but it is a good >> glimpse in order to identify various pcs. >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>: May 05 10:13AM +1000 >> >> Not really they stopped making them later on >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond >> Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 8:41 AM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> >> >> >> I will try to scan them into a pdf later today. >> >> >> >> The info is a bit dated based on the era of my machine (2004?) >> >> >> >> More accessories may have become available later on but it is a good >> glimpse in order to identify various pcs. >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 4, 2022, at 12:41 PM, M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net <mailto: >> mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Jeff, >> >> >> >> Thanks for re-posting. >> >> I'd like to print those pages out as well as store them digitally to my >> files. >> >> Would you please send them out one more time - with each pic being its >> own page. >> >> And make all 4 in the vertical format which will simplify reading the >> image on the screen as well as printing it out. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Mac >> >> >> _____ >> >> >> _____ >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > >> Sent: May 3, 2022 9:16 PM >> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > >> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> >> >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> >> >> Here are the photos again but smaller based on Tim’s feedback. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On May 3, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto: >> timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Hey Great idea to help him out Jeff. thats the greatest help anyone can >> offer. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Welcome to the group Dave, >> >> >> >> I also have a 900 manual benchtop model and have a few of the accessories >> in your photos. >> >> >> >> It’s good to see you were able to access the manual. This is a good start. >> >> >> >> I will see if I can send you some more information later today in >> addition to what others have offered. >> >> >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On May 3, 2022, at 10:05 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto: >> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Ok Dave first thing behind the crank handle there should be one gear not >> 3, haveing that in mind you seem to have all 7 pitch gears. you also have >> the horizontal vice for doing flat work >> >> >> >> Also the vertical vice for doing things like box joints, dovetails and >> such see page 100 and 101 in your manual. You also have the template >> mounting brackets so you will be able to do template milling work . and you >> have both left and right hand gear spindle gears so you will be able to do >> right and left hand spirals. >> >> And you have the standard gear set .. what you don’t have is the .25 gear >> set >> >> And the 2X gear set which are optional extras that we all want. oh and I >> also saw a thin stock support in your stuff >> >> >> >> >> >> The 4 flat square things with a thread in the middle are table nuts and >> can only be used one way up your you will pull the insert out. All the >> other odds and ends are for different mountings and such you also have 4 >> index drive hubs for mounting your work to the mill >> >> >> >> Ok that’s about all for now if that’s all the stuff you have with your >> mill there is much more you didn’t get with the mill but there is enough to >> do quite a variety of work. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave Sawdon >> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 10:52 PM >> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > >> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> >> >> >> Thanks Curt (and everyone else). >> >> I've downloaded the manual now but have only just moved the machine into >> a shed and haven't had chance to try to work-out what I have. It would be >> great if I could find an original shipping list (I assume there was one... >> ?) >> >> There are a lot of metal brackets but, at the moment, I have no idea what >> to do with them ... I'm sure things will be clearer with time. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> . >> >> On Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 21:50:39 UTC+1 Curt George wrote: >> >> ONE more note. >> >> >> >> If you can take a photo of your machine, that way we all can see what is >> and is not there. I might help? >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, May 1, 2022, 04:47:34 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy >> Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again Dave. >> >> >> >> I suggest that you play with your Legacy as much as you can before trying >> to start a project. >> >> >> >> But having said that, Uniformity is the goal. If you are going to do a >> large batch of spindles, Do "NOT" make each one and try to make them the >> same. instead do the assembly line process, DO ONE Cut on all spindles at >> one time, and then move to the second cut and so on... >> >> Also if you plan to make that many spindles you will need one or two >> motors to make the job easer. Legacy sold a carriage drive motor. (I hope >> you have one?) They also sold on there older and larger machines a spindle >> drive motor (mainly used for template work and planning cut on spindles. >> >> A few people in OUR group have made there own motors /adapted other >> motors to there Legacy's to get the job done. YOU are welcome to search our >> archives for this info. >> >> >> >> I have given you full access to the group. So feel free to ask or suggest >> anything that you can. THE GOAL is to Learn and grow. Share what you can >> and in this way WE all can learn together. >> >> >> >> I wish you luck on your future projects. >> >> I can wait to see what you turn UP with. ;-) >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:31:39 PM UTC-4 daves...@gmail.com <mailto: >> daves...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Many thanks to Curt and Bill for opening the door and letting me in. >> >> >> >> The reason for wanting to join is that I've recently bought a model 900 >> and need to start up the learning curve. >> >> The reason I bought the mill is, primarily, because I need to turn some >> large'ish custom oak stair spindles and my turning skills are such that I >> could make 40 or 50 unique spindles on a lathe but am unlikely to be able >> to make 40 or 50 identical'ish spindles - I hope the Legacy 900 will help >> me to do that. >> >> Is there a diagram or list of parts that should be with a model 900? I'd >> like to check whether there is anything missing. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/fec013af-f275-d8d3-71e4-050eaa43faa7%40earthlink.net >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/fec013af-f275-d8d3-71e4-050eaa43faa7%40earthlink.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4ECBE3E0-EB72-4E0A-AC13-C7C81D4804A1%40gmail.com >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4ECBE3E0-EB72-4E0A-AC13-C7C81D4804A1%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com>: May 04 09:09PM -0400 >> >> Lol, that is true Bill >> >> I guess what I meant was that the info I have may not be a complete >> listing of accessories. >> >> If we only knew then, what we know now. 🤷♂️ >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>: May 05 11:31AM +1000 >> >> Oh yea, beats me why legacy doesn’t still keep a few accessorises but I >> guess if your dealing in tens of thousands of dollar mills why bother with >> us lowly manual operators lol >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond >> Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 11:10 AM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> >> >> >> Lol, that is true Bill >> >> >> >> I guess what I meant was that the info I have may not be a complete >> listing of accessories. >> >> >> >> If we only knew then, what we know now. 🤷♂️ >> >> >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 4, 2022, at 8:14 PM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto: >> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> >> >> Not really they stopped making them later on >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jeff Richmond >> Sent: Thursday, 5 May 2022 8:41 AM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> >> >> >> I will try to scan them into a pdf later today. >> >> >> >> The info is a bit dated based on the era of my machine (2004?) >> >> >> >> More accessories may have become available later on but it is a good >> glimpse in order to identify various pcs. >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On May 4, 2022, at 12:41 PM, M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net <mailto: >> mwfos...@earthlink.net> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Jeff, >> >> >> >> Thanks for re-posting. >> >> I'd like to print those pages out as well as store them digitally to my >> files. >> >> Would you please send them out one more time - with each pic being its >> own page. >> >> And make all 4 in the vertical format which will simplify reading the >> image on the screen as well as printing it out. >> >> Thanks again. >> >> Mac >> >> >> _____ >> >> >> _____ >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > >> Sent: May 3, 2022 9:16 PM >> To: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > >> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> >> >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> >> >> Here are the photos again but smaller based on Tim’s feedback. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On May 3, 2022, at 1:24 PM, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com <mailto: >> timjzieg...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Hey Great idea to help him out Jeff. thats the greatest help anyone can >> offer. >> >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> >> 14171 160th Ave. >> >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:15 AM Jeff Richmond <jtrichmo...@gmail.com >> <mailto:jtrichmo...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Welcome to the group Dave, >> >> >> >> I also have a 900 manual benchtop model and have a few of the accessories >> in your photos. >> >> >> >> It’s good to see you were able to access the manual. This is a good start. >> >> >> >> I will see if I can send you some more information later today in >> addition to what others have offered. >> >> >> >> Jeff from Connecticut >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On May 3, 2022, at 10:05 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au <mailto: >> bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Ok Dave first thing behind the crank handle there should be one gear not >> 3, haveing that in mind you seem to have all 7 pitch gears. you also have >> the horizontal vice for doing flat work >> >> >> >> Also the vertical vice for doing things like box joints, dovetails and >> such see page 100 and 101 in your manual. You also have the template >> mounting brackets so you will be able to do template milling work . and you >> have both left and right hand gear spindle gears so you will be able to do >> right and left hand spirals. >> >> And you have the standard gear set .. what you don’t have is the .25 gear >> set >> >> And the 2X gear set which are optional extras that we all want. oh and I >> also saw a thin stock support in your stuff >> >> >> >> >> >> The 4 flat square things with a thread in the middle are table nuts and >> can only be used one way up your you will pull the insert out. All the >> other odds and ends are for different mountings and such you also have 4 >> index drive hubs for mounting your work to the mill >> >> >> >> Ok that’s about all for now if that’s all the stuff you have with your >> mill there is much more you didn’t get with the mill but there is enough to >> do quite a variety of work. >> >> >> >> Bill >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave Sawdon >> Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2022 10:52 PM >> To: Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > >> Subject: Re: Access to Legacy ornamental mills group >> >> >> >> Thanks Curt (and everyone else). >> >> I've downloaded the manual now but have only just moved the machine into >> a shed and haven't had chance to try to work-out what I have. It would be >> great if I could find an original shipping list (I assume there was one... >> ?) >> >> There are a lot of metal brackets but, at the moment, I have no idea what >> to do with them ... I'm sure things will be clearer with time. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> . >> >> On Sunday, 1 May 2022 at 21:50:39 UTC+1 Curt George wrote: >> >> ONE more note. >> >> >> >> If you can take a photo of your machine, that way we all can see what is >> and is not there. I might help? >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, May 1, 2022, 04:47:34 PM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy >> Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello again Dave. >> >> >> >> I suggest that you play with your Legacy as much as you can before trying >> to start a project. >> >> >> >> But having said that, Uniformity is the goal. If you are going to do a >> large batch of spindles, Do "NOT" make each one and try to make them the >> same. instead do the assembly line process, DO ONE Cut on all spindles at >> one time, and then move to the second cut and so on... >> >> Also if you plan to make that many spindles you will need one or two >> motors to make the job easer. Legacy sold a carriage drive motor. (I hope >> you have one?) They also sold on there older and larger machines a spindle >> drive motor (mainly used for template work and planning cut on spindles. >> >> A few people in OUR group have made there own motors /adapted other >> motors to there Legacy's to get the job done. YOU are welcome to search our >> archives for this info. >> >> >> >> I have given you full access to the group. So feel free to ask or suggest >> anything that you can. THE GOAL is to Learn and grow. Share what you can >> and in this way WE all can learn together. >> >> >> >> I wish you luck on your future projects. >> >> I can wait to see what you turn UP with. ;-) >> >> >> >> C.A.G. >> >> >> >> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:31:39 PM UTC-4 daves...@gmail.com <mailto: >> daves...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Many thanks to Curt and Bill for opening the door and letting me in. >> >> >> >> The reason for wanting to join is that I've recently bought a model 900 >> and need to start up the learning curve. >> >> The reason I bought the mill is, primarily, because I need to turn some >> large'ish custom oak stair spindles and my turning skills are such that I >> could make 40 or 50 unique spindles on a lathe but am unlikely to be able >> to make 40 or 50 identical'ish spindles - I hope the Legacy 900 will help >> me to do that. >> >> Is there a diagram or list of parts that should be with a model 900? I'd >> like to check whether there is anything missing. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/fec013af-f275-d8d3-71e4-050eaa43faa7%40earthlink.net >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/fec013af-f275-d8d3-71e4-050eaa43faa7%40earthlink.net?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4ECBE3E0-EB72-4E0A-AC13-C7C81D4804A1%40gmail.com >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/4ECBE3E0-EB72-4E0A-AC13-C7C81D4804A1%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000101d86014%24fbca6f30%24f35f4d90%24%40mmnet.com.au >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/000101d86014%24fbca6f30%24f35f4d90%24%40mmnet.com.au?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto: >> legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/395FD754-53B0-4AF4-9AE3-5349A79C1798%40gmail.com >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/395FD754-53B0-4AF4-9AE3-5349A79C1798%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> Back to top <#m_-6431288512295121914_m_2716310505601659719_digest_top> >> Legacy projects >> <http://groups.google.com/group/legacy-ornamental-mills/t/2611ae4c04427650?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email> >> <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>: May 04 06:52PM +1000 >> >> I do love that timber >> >> Bill >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, 4 May 2022 11:42 AM >> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Legacy projects >> >> I saw about a 15-20 second clip from an old promotional video featuring a >> “south west blanket chest”, and came up with this. 3” corners, 1 1/2” rope >> twist 2 start, 3” pitch. Pretty easy to build. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/legacy-ornamental-mills/6E63C858-2638-470D-953E-40104B1FE54B%40yahoo.com >> . >> Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com>: May 04 05:55AM -0500 >> >> very good thanks. It sure pops >> Kind Regards, >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> 14171 160th Ave. >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> 320-294-5798 shop >> 320-630-2243 cell >> >> >> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 10:02 PM 'David Mann' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < >> Rick Hutley <rghut...@gmail.com>: May 04 08:24AM -0400 >> >> Apart from the beautiful looks, being cedar it must smell wonderful too. >> Perfect for a blanket chest. >> >> Rick >> >> Denson Ingram <denso...@yahoo.com>: May 04 12:52PM -0500 >> >> Nice work Curt. >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> Denson Ingram <denso...@yahoo.com>: May 04 12:54PM -0500 >> >> Sorry misread >> Nice work David lol. Beautiful >> Denson >> >> Sent from Denson's iPhone >> >> Back to top <#m_-6431288512295121914_m_2716310505601659719_digest_top> >> You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this >> group. 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