hey now there you go coming up with solutions for our problems again. Wow Bill "Johnny on the spot" Kind Regards,
Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 4:32 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > If I needed an adaptor I would turn one on the metal lathe > > > > A shop smith face plate that slips on that shaft with 4 even holes > drilled in its face that fit the legacy drive hub > > Would be where I would start. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 5:43 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > No our shopsmiths have a straight shaft with a flat. No place for a taper. > > You can get an adapter for the shopsmith that you can get from PennState > exclusive for the shopsmith. > > > > *https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html > <https://www.pennstateind.com/store/L5818.html>* > > > > then you can spin a chuck on the Shopsmith and then maybe you could turn a > #2 morse taper down to > > 1/2 and chuck it up???? > > Just thoughts but that is what I'd do. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:06 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > Curt can answer that one he does it all the time I don’t have a shop smith > > But if your shopsmith has a number 2 morse taper in its headstock > > Legacys drive hub will fit right in it. That’s what I do in my nova wood > lathe > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2022 2:59 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Thank you Bill for the great info for us beginners. > > I’m sure this has been brought up before but how is the best way to go > from LOM to Shopsmith lathe or vice versa. And if special made connectors > could you send pics? > > Thanks > > Denson > > Sent from Denson's iPhone > > > > On Oct 17, 2022, at 7:32 AM, bulke...@mmnet.com.au wrote: > > > > I wouldn’t say toolmaker we learnt how to silver braze tips as an > apprentice and hand grinding tools for the metal lathe as > > Part of the trade. > > Insertable carbide tips were just becoming popular back then there were no > where near the amount of different shapes > > There is now so brazed carbide was still around and in use, recycling used > inserts wasn’t the thing much then > > So I could get handfuls of old used inserts which I still have all these > years later. insert tools were expensive back then > > So making your own was the logical thing to do I don’t know why it hasn’t > become popular in wood turning tools today > > A nice piece of high tensile steel and some old used inserts and you can > have a $300 lathe tool it’s a no brainer really. > > But after saying all this I couldn’t make router bits you need specialised > grinding and milling machines for that. > > Much easier just to buy them or insert router bits. > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 9:41 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Wow Bill, so your a tool maker too. Now I'm even more impressed. lol > > I agree there are plenty of imports that can be as good, if they have good > quality control for sure. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 10:48 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > I do remember the silver brazed on bits I used them lots in my days in the > metal trade > > And I make them still in my shop they were great when you needed a custom > shape tool > > I use used blunt inserts and braze them on to a blank and they work as > good as any insert > > Because they are an insert. > > Anyway that tool your showing here is only a 2 flute where mine is 3 > > Because I am poor I would buy the cheaper cutter but buy the high quality > inserts and put in it > > Provided they fit, easy wood lathe tool inserts fit in mine and I find > them quite good. > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 1:09 PM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Well in my opinion and this will go back a while back on carbide. > > Brazed on Carbide is not usually as hard of grade, as the inserts. > > The insert carbide is a better bet and will out last a brazed on but > > at least 4 times as long on just one edge. then you have 3 more edges to > > change out. But you have to buy a good brand. As the china carbide is > > not as good as other brands. See link: > > > https://www.acmetools.com/freud-spoilboard-surfacing-rabbeting-bit-tm1465/008925135593.html > > > > Freud's bits are expensive but I tend to favor them, having most of my > everyday router bits being freud. > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 8:32 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > I agree that one is not badly priced. But what I want it first hand info. > > Do you OR anyone in this group, think the replicable blades are as good or > better then the normal carbide router bit? I would really like to know what > you think? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 09:27:03 PM EDT, Tim Ziegler < > timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/Spoilboard-Router-Bit-Carbide-NITOMAK/dp/B085QGLHB4/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1Y7QN81UFU3J1&keywords=3+flute+spoilboard+planing+bit.&qid=1665969834&qu=eyJxc2MiOiIxLjI3IiwicXNhIjoiMC4wMCIsInFzcCI6IjAuMDAifQ%3D%3D&sprefix=3+flute+spoil+board+planing+bit.%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-10 > > > > They are not that expensive, off brand but looks ok. > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 7:25 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > > I know a few friends who ONLY buy cutters with replacement blades for > there CNC Machines. > > But do you feel that this bit worth the price you paid for it? > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022 at 08:15:49 PM EDT, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> > wrote: > > > > > > https://www.carbitool.com.au/product/3-flute-surface-planer/ > > > > this > > > > Bill > > > > *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com < > legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler > *Sent:* Monday, 17 October 2022 10:34 AM > *To:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: ornamental milling for beginners episode 5 > > > > Hey Bill what you using for the planning router bit???? > > Kind Regards, > > > > Timothy J. Ziegler > > Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty > > 14171 160th Ave. > > Foreston MN 56330 > > > > 320-294-5798 shop > > 320-630-2243 cell > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 6:23 PM <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > Thank you > > > > > > Looks good > > On Sunday, October 16, 2022, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au> wrote: > > Yes it is longer than I wanted but I couldn’t shorten it much more and > keep all the steps in > > For learners to follow As it was a skipped a couple of things and just > described what to do > > > > Bill > > > > Very nice work there Bill. > > The video is a bit long, but I do think you covered every step. > > > > Thank you. > > > > C.A.G. > > > > > > https://youtu.be/R8j8hcQg9bg > > > > ok guys here is one more ornamental milling for beginners, > > > > episode 5 this time its milling a 2 start barley and then turning it > > > > into a hollow spiral. as they get more complex they are getting harder > > to show and explain how to make them I’m sorry if anyone can’t understand > or follow > > it I did my best, I had a few problems too one was the ½ inch spiral bit > was almost > > stuffed so smoke and burnt wood was a bit of a problem also a crack opened > up > > during milling but I managed to super glue it up before it got too bad and > edit it > > out of the finished video. 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