Good morning Eric.
I will make the hole set, Or at least the Gears I did not make before. (I'm not
sure when I will get the time? but it should be sometime next week, Most likely
next Friday.)But none the Less, I will make them as soon as a can. Have a good
day.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 08:43:55 AM EST, Eric Gantner
<[email protected]> wrote:
Good Morning Curt, Thanks. If you have time to do up the other gears that
would be great.
Eric
On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 12:31 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
<[email protected]> wrote:
EricThose gears looks Great!
When I made the DFX files for the drive gears, I did it off the cuff, "So to
speak" (at the time I was only looking for the proper gear set and angles, to
mate up with the Legacy gearing.) I did not draw up all the proper tooth count
for all the drive gears.
If you want I can re-draw a few more gears files for you, So you have all the
proper gear sets to match the Legacy drive gears.
I have no idea on how the plastic will hold up, Long term? But I am hopeful
that your 3D printed gears will work out well for you.If you (or anyone in this
group) can buy the Legacy drive gears, I think it would be a good idea, If not
these homemade versions should work out well, at least in the short term. I am
in the R&D stages, Lots of testing will need to be done. before I will fully
recommend working with plastics for the Legacy's gears. But for people like
yourself, who can use what I have to offer, Everything is freely given.I am
"NOT" trying to sell anything, Except, maybe the idea that, When there is a
will, there is always a way to get the job done. If you need help? Please ask.
;-)
Have a good night.
C.A.G.
On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 11:18:39 PM EST, Tom B.C. Canada
<[email protected]> wrote:
interesting, thanks for posting.On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 8:09:56 PM
UTC-8 Eric Gantner wrote:
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 10, 2023, at 11:06 PM, Eric Gantner <[email protected]> wrote:
Curt,
I made a couple modes to your file so I could 3d print them. The gears are 1/8
inch thick and the identification labels 1/32 in depth, I need to move a few of
the labels as they are too close to the square whole. For 3d printing I needed
resize the square to 5/16. The print job took 3 hours as I printed them all at
the same time. Cost of material was a $1.78. I will post the file once I fix
the labeling.
I do want order a set from legacy, but I am going try see how this set works
over the next few days.
V/rEric Gantner
On Tue, Feb 7, 2023 at 1:01 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
I don’t care what ever or who ever get the group going great
Bill
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Tim Ziegler
Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2023 11:41 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Plastic gears
yeah kinda weird
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell
On Mon, Feb 6, 2023 at 10:29 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
I don’t get it when I talked printing plastic gears all I got was negatives now
everyone wants to print gears lol
Bill
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Eric Gantner
Sent: Tuesday, 7 February 2023 2:41 PM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Plastic gears
Curt,
I am going to print a set of your gears with my 3D printer. I think I need to
change my pressure angle to 25 on mine the still edit each one. More to
follow. Thanks!
Eric Gantner
On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:39:18 PM UTC-5 Curt George wrote:
Hello Everyone.
Eric. and everyone who wants these gears.
I made a program today, The Drive gears that I made fit the Legacy's perfectly.
Here are the file. The DFX file should work for everyone.
I can make others, what I did today was just basic tooth counts of
60,50,40,30,25 tooth gears.
The Diametric pitch for the drive gears are 25. the Newer laser cut
ones/Indexing and duplex gears are 12.
I made a set for both today.
I know that the Plexiglas gears will not hold up. but the white ones are
Derlin, They should hold up? (NOTE: the White/Derlin, one are to thick for the
directional gears to mesh with now, I plan to try to mill them down/make them
thinner.
At this time its all trial and error.
If anyone else wants to try, Feel free to use any info I am presenting.
I wish you all luck.
More latter.
C.A.G.
On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 01:25:24 PM EST, Eric Gantner
<[email protected]> wrote:
Curt,
Do you happen to have the teeth count of any of the drive gears. Thought I
would check before I start counting the teeth from this photo. Thanks
Eric Gantner
Sent from my iPad
On Feb 5, 2023, at 9:46 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
<[email protected]> wrote:
Good morning Eric.
I have been playing around with plastic gearing for the Legacy. But I have been
looking at the other end of the gear linkage.
The drive gears are much smaller tooth design, I see no real reason why they
too can not be made out of plastic's?
In the past, we have had a few people cut out gears for the group on a laser,
out of metal. (but sadly these people no longer have access to the equipment,
do this any more.)
I have DFX files for the gears that I have been making to match up with
Legacy's indexing gears, If you like I can forward those to you, or If you like
I can do some more trial and error and see if I can make these drive gear
first, To see how they work. Its up to you.
I am in the process of making a new attachment for the Legacy, I am cutting out
gears out of Plexiglas and Acrylic for this attachment. So it really isn't that
big of a deal for my to add a 1/4" square in the middle of the gear, For me the
biggest factor is trying to find the correct size of gear to make the pitches
you need.
I use V carve for my programing and then make CRV file into DFX for cutting on
the laser.
Here are two files to see if you can do something with them. If they work for
you, I have no problems sending them to the group.
Have a good day.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 08:59:11 AM EST, Eric Gantner
<[email protected]> wrote:
Good Morning,
I not sure if I should start a new message or add on to this. I think I am
almost done putting my 900 together with a Z-axis carriage. My machine only
came with drive gears F &G, is this something I need to start working on now
or can it wait. I think I can make them once I understand how they work, I
have no background in this sort of thing. What I do have is a is a laser
engraver-cutter, 3D printer, and a
CNC that can mill aluminum. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Eric Gantner
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 9:23:20 PM UTC-5 [email protected] wrote:
Yeah sounds good Jeff, let us know what you find out.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell
On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 6:04 PM Jeff Richmond <[email protected]> wrote:
I came across some HDPE for a very reasonable price. I was hoping to try it for
gears but it would be CNC cut instead of laser.
We will see how it goes.
Jeff from Connecticut
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2023, at 6:45 PM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tim I was told that the name Derlin was a DuPont trade name. and this Acetron
was the same stuff but made by another name only. If you feel the Derlin on my
split nut, it feels the same as the Acetron, If I get a chance I will also use
the UHMW. It is easer for me to find, (but I have not priced it $$$ wise in
many years.)
More latter.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 02:30:00 PM EST, Tim Ziegler
<[email protected]> wrote:
Looks like a lot of properties similar to Delrin Curt.
I still think we should try UHMW too, though I want to get some of that stock
you have there.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell
On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:07 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
<[email protected]> wrote:
- General Info
- Key Properties
- Applications
- Trade Names
- Available Sizes
- Available Colors
- Safety Data Sheet
Applications
§ Bushings & Bearings
§ Conveying / Material Handling Components
§ Electrical Components
§ Food Products / Packaging Machinery Components
§ Gears
§ Medical & Diagnostic Equipment Components
§ Metal Replacement Applications
§ Rollers
§ Scientific Instrumentation
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:01:47 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy
Ornamental Mills <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Everyone, And Good morning to all. ;-)
Mac. Yes the new gears are a heavy 1/4" the old ones were 3/16.
Jeff. I'm not really sure why they broke? I think it could be the plastic and
metal meshing, but it also could have been the cold temps in my shop? Due this
Question, I made the second gear to try to find out for sure why?
A third possibility could be, the my mounting of the motor and gear set-up,
Perhaps the gears were not set correctly due my my brackets having to much play
in it???
ALL That I can say for sure is, What I have now, And that I have a lot more
testing to do.
PVC is very hard, and it looks to me at this time the hardness also made it a
little brittle.
I am hoping that this Acrtron GP plastic will hold up? Bye the way.
This is what I found out about this product.
https://www.boedeker.com/Product/CS110-00625-AGP-QUAD-6X12/Acetron-GP-Black?msclkid=1cd17cb130361fd8ac9c1f73e1255014&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping%20-%20JF&utm_term=4584138872164339&utm_content=All%20Products
Have a good day everyone.
C.A.G.
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 08:00:46 AM EST, Jeff Richmond
<[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for the update Curt.
Was the tooth failure between the two pvc gears or between a steel and pvc gear?
Jeff from Connecticut
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 14, 2023, at 12:32 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Everyone.
Sadly the PVC gears that I made last week, started to chip and break. as I was
using my machine last night.
So this morning, I was able to find a different type of plastic, and I was able
to make a new set of Gears that should hold up to the Legacy.
The material is called Acetron GP. (Its not cheap to buy, but I was told that
it should hold up for my gears that I am making. And it is Laser friendly, So I
bought some today.)
Here are some photos.
Tomorrow I will do some more testing, with both Acetron gears as well as with
my Original Legacy gear that I used for my specks.
Please let me know what you think?
talk to you all more latter.
C.A.G.
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 01:16:01 AM EST, Tim Ziegler
<[email protected]> wrote:
they might be stackable????? lol.
Kind Regards,
Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330
320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell
On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 8:50 PM 'Denson Ingram' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
<[email protected]> wrote:
Tim maybe you could go to a pulley system and hang one or more from the ceiling.
Lol
Denson
Sent from Denson's iPhone
On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:48 PM, Jeff Richmond <[email protected]> wrote:
That’s one way to do it.
I don’t know that I could bring myself to discard the rest. I would feel
obligated to find it a new home. (Probably mine, lol)
Jeff from Connecticut
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 11, 2023, at 5:17 PM, [email protected] wrote:
The thing is $900 or even $1500 if you could get a big mill with it on just
have parts shipped to you and have the owner scrap the rest
A drive motor and controllers were worth $889 plus the 4X gears plus what ever
else extras come with the big mill you still would be in front
Bill
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Jeff Richmond
Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2023 8:23 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Plastic gears
I have been keeping my eyes out.
Even though they were an option, the previous owner (if they had them) doesn’t
typically want to sell them separately. (Can’t blame them really)
Those machines aren’t the ones that break down for shipment very well at 1200
or so pounds.
Harder to hide in the corner of the garage too. Lol
Jeff from Connecticut
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 11, 2023, at 4:15 PM, [email protected] wrote:
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