These look very substantial and long-lasting Curt. I wonder if it would be worthwhile cutting them out of ¼” acrylic sheet on a laser engraver. It if is, it would be a fast and easy way to duplicate them when they wear out or someone else needs one (and a lot lighter, and hence cheaper, to post).
Also, anyone with any graphics skills (eg. Using Illustrator) could create their own template designs – or perhaps take a contour off of an existing piece they are trying to replace/replicate (maybe using one of those contour measuring things from Homedepot etc.) Rick From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Date: Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:32 AM To: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates Hello and Good morning again everyone. I stated the Pen State was the only company that still makes templates. This is true, but I also wanted everyone to know there templates are a bit different then the ones that I make. here are some photo's of there templates modified to work with my set-up. As you can see there templates are much smaller then what I make, In these photos, I tac wielded there templates onto a piece of metal So I can hold these templates with my set-up/tool holders. There templates are nice, but they may need some modifications if you want to use them.(same but different.) ;-) NOTE: the white template in the mid, of the second photo is one that I made/ point of reference. C.A.G. On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 09:21:33 AM EST, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: Good morning Tim. "Auto Cad". When I started, the meaning of CAD was ,Cardboard Assisted . (Isn't is funny how meanings change over the years?) ;-p Have a great day. C.A.G. On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 06:46:39 AM EST, Tim Ziegler <timjzieg...@gmail.com> wrote: Great description Curt. I too have 20 plus years of designing and making templates. Many by hand, but in the end most were drawn in AutoCad then cut out on a small CNC template machine. Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 11:55 PM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hello and Good evening everyone. (I just got home form work.) I was asked about these templates that I was making, And I thought others might also like to hear more on this topic. First off, the ones that I am making today are stainless steel, but in the past I made and used many other materials, I have wood, plastic, and metal templates that I have both bought and made. The bought templates are both plastic and metal. Pen State are the only company that I know of today that still sell templates for turning. but in the past there were more. I think the CNC world has all but destroyed that part of the industry, Templates were the poor man's CNC. to make copies of parts for many woodworkers (in all fields not just wood turning.) I see the template as a general guide only, I am not looking for fine details in my templates, only the general shapes are what I want. The details I choose to add with my Legacy and or turned by hand, this give my work a homemade/custom quality , but also lets me have the finer look of a production quality, that many people today are looking for. When I start, I always start with the centerline of the part. This centerline is where I not only start to draw from, but its also this line is were I align my templates and machines so everything works together. this is why every template has a flat on both edges, those edges are/is the center line of the part. (made for easy alignment.) On my lathe and Legacy, this center line is the center points of the tailstock and headstock. all measurements are taken form this point. These stainless steel templates are made for my bone turning handles that I like to make today. I am limited to the measurement of the handle I make. those are. 3 3/4" long x 1/2" tall (remember the spindles are originally 7/8" dia. round, so just under 1/2" is the dia. will be my max, size for my cuts.) As a General note. these templates are for small work, if the spindle is larger then what I want to make the template too will also have to be modified, if I choose to use it. This leads to the need of having many different templates. At this time, I have appx. 300 templates hanging in my shop. (I only have one photo, at this time, it is of one of my three racks that hold some of my templates.) In the photo there are wood, Corian, and plastic templates that I made on a laser a few years ago. Many of these templates range form stair case parts, finals, and other wood turning design patterns that I wanted to make over the years. I have a rack in the rafters of my shop which has many table legs and spindles form side jobs. fully made parts that I used as templates in my early days of wood working. Back to the topic. If you are only looking for a general shape and key points, that have to be copied, templates are an easy way to maintain quality and to increase speed in production. Today I find it fun, and easy to make templates when needed. these stainless steel templates that I have shown. only take me appx. 20 min. form start to finish. (the pic. of the Stainless steel templates are to show how simple the designs can be, as well as the size of these templates.) If you have more questions, Please let me know. Have a good night everyone. C.A.G. On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:05:10 PM EST, Curt George <curt.geo...@yahoo.com<mailto:curt.geo...@yahoo.com>> wrote: I too enjoy using the Wave attachment. I normally stay small, but Large is So very cool! Those are great photo's. C.A.G. On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 06:01:07 PM EST, <bulke...@mmnet.com.au<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>> wrote: With my wav I can even make waves like these I love it best mod so many variations it can do Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of bulke...@mmnet.com.au<mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:49 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: New hand made Stainless Steel templates The wav attachment best mod we ever came up with Bill From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 9:08 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates Hey Mac Yes you are right Stainless Steel is not easy to work with. using most hand tools. But with a hand angle grinder and an abrasive wheel, Plus a pedestal grinder with both a grinding wheel and wire brush and a few files.(for fine detail work.) working with these scrap steel pieces was not all that hard to do. Each template took something like 20 min. to make.(+/-) As I start getting more use to do this kind of stuff by hand again, I am hoping the quality of my work will also improve? I just made one more turning today. This one is template work, with the Wave Attachment and the Legacy. More latter. Have a good day. C.A.G. On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 03:21:13 PM EST, M.W.Foscue <mwfos...@earthlink.net<mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net>> wrote: Curtis, Would it not have been easier to use pieces of scrap 2x2 angle iron or a steel window lintel from a house being renovated? You may be able to fined scrap steel at a local "Habitat for Humanity Re-store". (One of my favorite places to check out once or twice a month.) I have never tried cutting stainless - but have tried to drill it - and that's a real bear! Much easier to drill angle iron. Mac ________________________________ ________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Feb 12, 2024 2:32 PM To: 'parr...@aol.com<mailto:parr...@aol.com>' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> Subject: Re: New hand made Stainless Steel templates Hello Peter. Its been a while since we last talked. The stainless steel for most of these templates are form an old kitchen sink that was being thrown away. but stainless steel cabinets and or shelves are too always open for projects for me. when I can find them. Take care. (and keep in touch.) ;-) C.A.G. ________________________________ ________________________________ On Monday, February 12, 2024 at 01:06:33 PM EST, 'parr...@aol.com<mailto:parr...@aol.com>' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Nice work Curt Where did you source the stainless? Peter ________________________________ ________________________________ Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661> On Monday, February 12, 2024, 12:44 AM, 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>> wrote: Hello Everyone. I had some free time today, so I made these templates for my Legacy, Only one has been tested so far, but I do think most of these should work well for my uses. I can use these templates on All of my wood working equipment, both of my Legacy's as well the lathes I own. Note: I see and use templates not as the final part of turning, but as a general guide for basic shaping of my spindles. Making stainless steel templates is not all that hard, by using an abrasive cutting wheel, and some hand files + a wire wheel to remove any burs... the process is pretty easy. (If anyone wants to know more, Please ask.) Tomorrow I hope to be able to try some of these out on some of my bone turning. Have a good night everyone. C.A.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Legacy Ornamental Mills" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. 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