Hey Joe, Well you are absolutely right you know. I have not ruled out the CNC world but I agree its nice to see some production from our machines. That is what I originally bought my 1200 for was to incorporate it into my cabinet, and furniture making and repair. I have done several product runs through it. Not like you and Mike of course but some. I do still enjoy a challenge and to see what I can all do on them, when time permits. I got into this game much later then several of you so I am still playing catch up lol. Not sure if that one pic showed my Horizontal router I custom mounted in on those last pix or not. but again another fun project just to see if I could do it. I also have a fancy chuck I innovated into my rotary table. (The Longworth)That works pretty ok. One thing I don't do is mods that will not let me return my machine to its original form. All I have done on my 1200 I can take back off and go right back to it. Now my REVO HYBRID EXT that's a different story. That was born from 3 other machines and has its own personality for sure. Again thanks for your input. Really appreciate it.
Kind Regards, Timothy J. Ziegler Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty Ziegler Laser Worx LLC 14171 160th Ave. Foreston MN 56330 320-294-5798 shop 320-630-2243 cell On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 1:42 PM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote: > for the record... I need to remind myself that my perspective towards the > Legacy is strictly from a business (make some money!) viewpoint... and I > might think that is the same for others... although I enjoy(ed) working and > modifying my machine, it was always with the intention of it helping the > shop produce billable work... taking it past that goal just did not seem > prudent for me at the time... I'm extremely impressed with the work that a > lot of the people in this group are making, both as an end product and the > mods to the equipment to get those products made... I had a lot of plans to > further the mods to my machine, but the realization of what CNC equipment > is capable of doing made me rethink my ambitions... the idea of what our > Legacys can do and how unique it is(was), was what motivated me in the > first place... take that away and it just doesn't seem like fun anymore... > the fact that a person in their teens, with computer skills and a simple > CNC machine can easily copy what would take us a good amount of time to do > on our manual machines, is dishearting... and CNC equipment is quickly > becoming affordable... even older, used equipment is more affordable as it > is being replaced by newer versions... as far as using a Legacy for > personal use, I think is great... but for making money in a business > setting, not so much... and I am too close to calling it quits to make the > plunge into the CNC world, so I am sticking with my Legacy... some random > thoughts on a slow day... Joe B. > > > > On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 2:14:15 PM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote: > >> Hey Joe, >> >> Great info and thanks for all the feedback as well. I agree with the size >> thing. We are very limited to size. >> Even if I did it on the LOM it's limited to less then 12 inch. >> All that being said though this is a very exciting adventure and I want >> to continue to pursue it. >> Yes I follow those Rose ornamental turning lathe guys too and they make >> me sightly envious >> but I think I have a lot of fun doing what I do. CNC yes maybe, We have a >> very large Laser Engraver >> too that I think I can do some incredible things as well. >> Thanks again Joe I appreciate the feedback. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Timothy J. Ziegler >> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC >> 14171 160th Ave. >> Foreston MN 56330 >> >> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop >> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell >> >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 8:56 AM 'finu...@aol.com' via Legacy Ornamental >> Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >> >>> Tim's post highlights exactly what my biggest beef was with traditional >>> ornamental turning... incredible things can be done with a Holtzapffel or >>> the piece that Tim used(fairly sure I know what it that is... and nice work >>> Tim!)... but the limit in the size capacity is what always bothered me and >>> motivated me to increase my Legacy to the size that it is... as nice as the >>> piece that Tim did is, details that small will have a tough time once clear >>> coats, paint or other finishes are applied... to me, the solution is to >>> make larger pieces, which then larger and deeper decorative cuts can be >>> milled into the piece... check out some large and incredible ornamental >>> milling from my former landlord, Harvey Fein... HARVEYFEIN.NET >>> <http://www.harveyfein.net/fein_woods/3_stories/index.html> ... I got >>> to see Harvey's equipment and jigs up close, since his work studio was in >>> the building my shop was in... incredibly designed jigs that was difficult >>> to understand... but his work was large and impressive... this helped to >>> inspire me to modify my equipment... then CNC came very much into use and >>> somewhat more affordable to the masses, and put all my ideas on the back >>> burner , since a CNC can out perform practically any jig and offer doing it >>> at a size we can only dream about(imagine a 4ft by 4ft turned and >>> ornamentally milled disc!)... anyway, with that being said, I'll put it out >>> there for for anyone(hey Tim!) to modify and enlarge the piece/accessory >>> that Tim is using and make something with some size!... go big or go >>> home!... LOL!... my best to all... Joe Biunno >>> >>> On Monday, June 24, 2024 at 7:24:28 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Roger, >>>> Practicing up to decorate a bowl at some point. >>>> >>>> Kind Regards, >>>> >>>> Timothy J. Ziegler >>>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty >>>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC >>>> 14171 160th Ave. >>>> Foreston MN 56330 >>>> >>>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop >>>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 5:53 AM Ccm Ccm <ccmde...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Very nice >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, June 22, 2024, Tim Ziegler <timjz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>> Hello all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Attached are a couple images of a piece of material that I did >>>>>> a little experiment on tonight. >>>>>> Any guesses to what I did it one? >>>>>> I'm telling you this thing is a lot of fun. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Timothy J. 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