thanks Dan,

Great feedback for sure.  I figured I wasn't the only one.
Thanks
Kind Regards,

Timothy J. Ziegler
Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
14171 160th Ave.
Foreston MN 56330

320-294-5798 shop
320-630-2243 cell


On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 8:54 AM cdkr...@gmail.com <cdkra...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Don't feel alone re: metric phobia Tim. I tried converting to metric in my
> woodshop shortly after I started in 1967, but there were too many obstacles
> and lots of conversion issues. Most of the machinery was English and most
> of the target installations were English. So to work in metric was an
> unecessary burden.  My work tolerance for most objects required at least
> three digits behind the decimal point, so rounding from say 1/2" to 13 mm
> was unacceptable. And if you use a 19 mm wrench on a 3/4" nut you will
> impose unnecessary wear on one or the other.  I've stripped round many a
> stubborn nut trying the mix and match.  Sometimes close is just not good
> enough, I don't care how much fun people make of it.  A lot of the worlds
> finest work has been done with neither English nor metric, and I've adopted
> a lot of ancient "technology" where number sticks of any sort are
> irrelevant. That's the cat's meow for me.
> DanK
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 23, 2024 at 6:55:24 AM UTC-4 Tim Ziegler wrote:
>
>> Not sure I want to try and learn that all over again. I let that out of
>> the brain more than 45 years ago. lol.
>> I remember what 19mm is and thats only because I grab a 19MM wrench
>> sometimes from my wrench set
>> to twin up with 3/4.
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>> Ziegler WoodWork & Specialty
>> Ziegler Laser Worx LLC
>> 14171 160th Ave.
>> Foreston MN 56330
>>
>> 320-294-5798 <(320)%20294-5798> shop
>> 320-630-2243 <(320)%20630-2243> cell
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 1:20 AM M.W.Foscue <mwfo...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Tim,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I, for one, wish we had converted to the metric system a century ago!
>>>
>>> Instead, we have been stuck with a real mixed bag of crap when it comes
>>> to measurements - length, volume, weight, etc.
>>>
>>> Thank you Great Britain! NOT!!! (Sorry, Brigitte!)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you know any cabinet shop pros (other than yourself) that have at
>>> least half a brain - they build in metric.
>>>
>>> The math is SO MUCH EASIER!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tim, you need to drop your pre-conceived notions/opinions and build just
>>> ONE project using metric measurements.
>>>
>>> You won't go back!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac
>>> ------------------------------
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Jul 20, 2024 11:02 PM
>>> To: <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah I am like you. I don't like the metric system so if possible avoid
>>> it like the plague lol.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>> ------------------------------
>>> ------------------------------
>>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2024 at 9:25 AM 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental
>>> Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey one last note. For those people like me. (not good with the metric
>>>> system.) 1500mm (59") Is what I used depending on which rail you buy the
>>>> price range could be $48.-$70. for two rails and bearings.
>>>> and for this 500. the 1000 (39 23/64") for $48.00 would be a cheap
>>>> investment for you Legacy. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> OK!  Got'a run now.
>>>>
>>>> take care everyone.
>>>>
>>>> C.A.G.
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 08:03:18 AM EDT, 'Curt George' via Legacy
>>>> Ornamental Mills <legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Guys.
>>>>
>>>> For the price, why not buy it and make your own Legacy/ machine, add
>>>> linear rail (which is cheap at this time on Amazon.) (
>>>> https://www.amazon.com/OrangeA-16-800mm-2xLinear-Automated-Equipments/dp/B07D9JRPG9/ref=sr_1_9?crid=3O6ZOCZLMJVC1&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.5nF2kpC9e06d4Uazs8esNr37KqhEKq7OrJtMqdrmRq5LVibABLK1FpefcGGJ4Ro5vOWB2-aotUxGTiSagK_B4KBYm7aYuhsZdXN8WCaGUbf-EpPLsv4Qx0mXG9jlGRD20zjqwNxrvi4NloFWqiL7G46TSvPXcu9TLOfBqSGJl-VcE4Z71BBTJQOCYDOjD3LMP4WOXp9hV-NRtWkmgO7aIJNUJA36ETG8k2qhu9BMd5g.drP49xafjzj1fSCPD5L17zPPzIoPwFI9Q-6CJSwnomU&dib_tag=se&keywords=16mm+linear+rail&qid=1721476678&sprefix=16mm+linear+rail%2Caps%2C92&sr=8-9
>>>>  ) So
>>>> you can make your own new, X,Y,Z axis's.
>>>> The plastic gearing , although cheap  quality, compared to the steel
>>>> Legacy gears of the other machines, are useable, for most projects.
>>>> While you are at it, why not switch or add a new acme screw to your
>>>> machine? I used a 5/8-8 on my 200 and love it, By adding a new screw you
>>>> can double the pitches you have with the gears. Perhaps a acme screw on
>>>> each side of the  Legacy would make things look cleaner, or add both on one
>>>> side to make it more convenient for using...?
>>>>
>>>> I Have to run now.
>>>> Legacy is not just a machine its an idea. Why not make your own? ;-)
>>>>
>>>> C.A.G.
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 20, 2024 at 07:41:23 AM EDT, <bulk...@mmnet.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nothing special just would be nice to have a few spares
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com <
>>>> legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim Ziegler
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2024 12:39 PM
>>>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Legacy modal 500 for sale. $300.00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yeah we could price shipping for you Bill. Get a weight and size and we
>>>> could price it for you.
>>>>
>>>> What gears are you still looking for?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Timothy J. Ziegler
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Fri, Jul 19, 2024 at 7:39 PM <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If it wasn’t for the shipping I might have bought it just to have the
>>>> gears to play with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>>
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