Thank you, I have been deleting all of the messages with this subject as I am not interested in this debate. This is not the place for this and I agree 100% with George Quinn. Time to get back to Legacy and what it can do and how to use the program. Bill Runolfson
In a message dated 10/7/2007 2:30:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Every word Gary has written it a gem. I have returned to the list after a gap of several years having been driven away by a previous "campaign. " I was about to unsubscribe until I read Gary's piece. I returned to try and find out about Version 7 and the new gizmos they have thought up. Could we please return to normality Dave Broom dejected NZ(lost at the quarter finals) ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary A Crull To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:11 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! Geez people.....GIVE IT A REST!! I was in the process of composing my comments when the following two postings showed up on the list. I agree with both. Like George, I'm pretty much one to just lurk, making few comments, occasionally asking for help. But this whole train of thought is getting tiresome. I thought genealogy was supposed to be a F U N pass time hobby. As Jim notes in his posting "most people here are patient and courteous and tolerant". Well that can go only so far before a lot of us loose patience. Sherry, and the other Legacy staff who monitor this list must have the patience of Job in order to put up with all this. And, it seems from George's review of the rules are MUCH more tolerant than they need to be as put forth in their own rules/regulations. There are those on this list that "loose it" when anything comes along that is even ever so slightly "outside the box" and have no compunction in stating their displeasure; whatever the 'sin'. "You didn't trim all the previous threads off....it takes too long to download". "All the previous threads were trimmed off - I have no idea what the thread was talking about". "The reply was at the TOP - not the bottom". "The reply was at the BOTTOM - not the top". Pleeeze.....give me a break. What difference does it make. Talk about having to do things MY WAY....geez. There are others who seem to think there are a series of "rules" that come with LEGACY that must be followed to enter ANYTHING. "How do I enter such-and-such so that it is correct?" "If I enter such-and-such this-way-or-that" will it screw up how Legacy is suppose to work'. Hey, if what you're doing works for you OK, go for it. Don't be intimitated into thinking because you're not doing it the way "they" do it that it then has to be "wrong". This is something you're doing for YOU....not THEM. Then there are the "Unsubscribe" situations. God forbid you get mixed up trying to do that! There are those who fly off the handle and treat the individual like an idiot for not reading the instructions as to how to do it. This list is composed of thousands of users worldwide with varying degrees of skill in computer use as well as genealogy, and, probably English as a language. Do these self proclaimed guardians of this list tell a child, or grandchild, who's just trying to learn to walk and continually falls down "Oh for heavens sakes, can't you do ANYTHING right. Just put one foot in front of the other and WALK. I get so tired of having to tell/show you how it's done!" I don't think so. If they do, then they're not someone I'd want to associate with. There's always going to be those coming on board Legacy who are beginners. We were all in that situation at some point in our genealogical lives. We need all the help we can get to answer basic questions...not berated by others as implying you should know that in the first place. Isn't HELP is what a forum is supposed to be for? We (newbies, or otherwise) don't need to be berated, belittled or otherwise demeaned for our lack of or improper (and innocent) use of "the rules". Let's make genealogy FUN. Don't think you have to be bound by what's the PROPER way of doing something. If what you're doing works for you OK, go for it. Most of us aren't going to be publishing something hoping for a Pulitzer Prize for literature anyway And, if Legacy doesn't do what YOU think it should, pick up your marbles and go play somewhere else. There are plenty of us here who think Legacy fits our needs just fine, considering genealogy/family history, a fun HOBBY to work at - not something to be a life consuming, by the book, JOB. And there are plenty of people who on this list who do stop to give a kind, gentle, lending hand to those who need it. It's just a small minority who give the whole list a black eye to newcomers. That said, I'll pick up MY marbles and go back into the corner with George and.....lurk! gc On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:47:59 -0400 "Jim Keener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sherry, I think every one's been quite patient with these people. This same thing seems to pop up every few weeks. I think this is an excellent UG and most people here are patient and courteous and tolerant. I hope this stops soon. This is a place to learn and share about the Legacy program. If this handful of people are so unhappy that Legacy respects the traditional family then I think they should do as they keep threatening to do--leave. Thank you. On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:12:57 -0700 "George Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I've held my tongue long enough. I mostly just lurk in this group and don't send messages. It's plain there are a lot of people who want a genealogy program that allows same sex marriages. It's plain there are a lot of people, including the folks who made Legacy, who don't want this to happen. I looked at the Legacy Users Group Etiquette rules and found this: 5. Please keep to the topic of Legacy and its add-on programs. This Legacy User Group is maintained and administered by Millennia Corporation. It is not a free forum for political messages, social commentary, religious opinion, lectures on morality, etc. Please don't send jokes, advertisements, etc. Millennia Corporation reserves the right to remove without warning any subscribers who violate purpose of this forum. I am surprised a whole lot of you on both sides of this issue haven't been removed from the LUG! I really admire the patience and forbearance of the Legacy staff. Let's all stick to program issues and stop with all the rhetoric that has nothing to do with the purpose of this group. I am not a homophobe, I just want to do my genealogy using Legacy, so enough already. Thank you, George Quinn P.S. Maybe those people who aren't happy with Legacy should shop around for another program and unsubscribe themselves from the LUG. 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