Bill, if you hadn't deleted the e-mails, you might have noticed that people were raising questions about how to use the program. The fact that you're not interested in the subject they were trying to deal with doesn't mean that other aren't. You're very mistakenly assuming that people interested in the subject are gay. Aren't you? And I suppose you think that people who are not interested in the subject are upstanding moral people. If you could see what one of those supposedly upstanding moral people wrote to me in a private e-mail you'd have second thoughts about all this.
On 10/7/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you, I have been deleting all of the messages with this subject as I > am not interested in this debate. This is not the place for this and I > agree > 100% with George Quinn. Time to get back to Legacy and what it can do and > how > to use the program. > > Bill Runolfson > > In a message dated 10/7/2007 2:30:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Every word Gary has written it a gem. I have returned to the list after a > gap of several years having been driven away by a previous "campaign. > " I was > about to unsubscribe until I read Gary's piece. > > I returned to try and find out about Version 7 and the new gizmos they > have > thought up. Could we please return to normality > > Dave Broom > dejected NZ(lost at the quarter finals) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gary A Crull > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:11 AM > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Enough Already! > > > Geez people.....GIVE IT A REST!! > > I was in the process of composing my comments when the following two > postings showed up on the list. I agree with both. Like George, I'm > pretty much one > to just lurk, making few comments, occasionally asking for help. But this > whole train of thought is getting tiresome. > > I thought genealogy was supposed to be a F U N pass time hobby. As Jim > notes > in his posting "most people here are patient and courteous and tolerant". > Well that can go only so far before a lot of us loose patience. Sherry, > and the > other Legacy staff who monitor this list must have the patience of Job in > order to put up with all this. And, it seems from George's review of the > rules > are MUCH more tolerant than they need to be as put forth in their own > rules/regulations. > > There are those on this list that "loose it" when anything comes along > that > is even ever so slightly "outside the box" and have no compunction in > stating > their displeasure; whatever the 'sin'. "You didn't trim all the previous > threads off....it takes too long to download". "All the previous threads > were > trimmed off - I have no idea what the thread was talking about". "The > reply was > at the TOP - not the bottom". "The reply was at the BOTTOM - not the > top". > Pleeeze.....give me a break. What difference does it make. Talk about > having > to do things MY WAY....geez. > > There are others who seem to think there are a series of "rules" that > come > with LEGACY that must be followed to enter ANYTHING. "How do I enter > such-and-such so that it is correct?" "If I enter such-and-such > this-way-or-that" will > it screw up how Legacy is suppose to work'. Hey, if what you're doing > works > for you OK, go for it. Don't be intimitated into thinking because you're > not > doing it the way "they" do it that it then has to be "wrong". This is > something you're doing for YOU....not THEM. > > Then there are the "Unsubscribe" situations. God forbid you get mixed up > trying to do that! There are those who fly off the handle and treat the > individual like an idiot for not reading the instructions as to how to do > it. This > list is composed of thousands of users worldwide with varying degrees of > skill > in computer use as well as genealogy, and, probably English as a > language. Do > these self proclaimed guardians of this list tell a child, or grandchild, > who's just trying to learn to walk and continually falls down "Oh for > heavens > sakes, can't you do ANYTHING right. Just put one foot in front of the > other > and WALK. I get so tired of having to tell/show you how it's done!" > I don't > think so. If they do, then they're not someone I'd want to > associate with. > > There's always going to be those coming on board Legacy who > are beginners. > We were all in that situation at some point in our genealogical lives. We > need > all the help we can get to answer basic questions...not berated by others > as > implying you should know that in the first place. Isn't HELP is what a > forum > is supposed to be for? We (newbies, or otherwise) don't need to > be berated, > belittled or otherwise demeaned for our lack of or improper > (and innocent) > use of "the rules". > > Let's make genealogy FUN. Don't think you have to be bound by what's the > PROPER way of doing something. If what you're doing works for you OK, go > for > it. Most of us aren't going to be publishing something hoping for a > Pulitzer > Prize for literature anyway > > And, if Legacy doesn't do what YOU think it should, pick up your marbles > and > go play somewhere else. There are plenty of us here who think Legacy fits > our needs just fine, considering genealogy/family history, a fun HOBBY to > work > at - not something to be a life consuming, by the book, JOB. And there > are > plenty of people who on this list who do stop to give a kind, gentle, > lending > hand to those who need it. It's just a small minority who give the whole > list > a black eye to newcomers. > > That said, I'll pick up MY marbles and go back into the corner with > George > and.....lurk! > > gc > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:47:59 -0400 "Jim Keener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > Sherry, > > I think every one's been quite patient with these people. This same > thing > seems to pop up every few weeks. I think this is an excellent UG and most > people here are patient and courteous and tolerant. I hope this > stops soon. > This is a place to learn and share about the Legacy program. If this > handful > of people are so unhappy that Legacy respects the traditional family then > I > think they should do as they keep threatening to do--leave. > > Thank you. > > On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:12:57 -0700 "George Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > I've held my tongue long enough. I mostly just lurk in this group and > don't > send messages. It's plain there are a lot of people who want a genealogy > program that allows same sex marriages. It's plain there are a lot of > people, > including the folks who made Legacy, who don't want this to happen. > > I looked at the Legacy Users Group Etiquette rules and found this: > 5. Please keep to the topic of Legacy and its add-on programs. This > Legacy > User Group is maintained and administered by Millennia Corporation. It is > not > a free forum for political messages, social commentary, > religious opinion, > lectures on morality, etc. Please don't send jokes, advertisements, etc. > Millennia Corporation reserves the right to remove without warning any > subscribers > who violate purpose of this forum. > I am surprised a whole lot of you on both sides of this issue haven't > been > removed from the LUG! I really admire the patience and forbearance of the > Legacy staff. > Let's all stick to program issues and stop with all the rhetoric that has > nothing to do with the purpose of this group. > I am not a homophobe, I just want to do my genealogy using Legacy, so > enough > already. > Thank you, > George Quinn > > P.S. Maybe those people who aren't happy with Legacy should shop around > for > another program and unsubscribe themselves from the LUG. > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > ************************************** See what's new at > http://www.aol.com > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > -- Thad Evotee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp