Good point. It would not be an obvious conclusion when researching a family more distant in time or relationship. I should choose my words more carefully. My grandmother's siblings were all known to us and the whole family immigrated around 1905, so it was obvious to me. :-) Someday I'll research the death records for the town that they were in during that period.

In the Italian records for the 1800s it did seem to be a consistent pattern to name a baby after a sibling who died. Even in the U.S. in 1909 my mother was named after her sibling who had died of scarlet fever a few months earlier at the age of 2.

Common religious names like Maria were duplicated a lot for living siblings, but with different middle names. (My grandmother Maria was in fact named after her mother, Maria Giuseppa, who in turn had siblings Maria Lucia, Maria Filomena, and Maria Teresa.)

 Ward

----- Original Message ----- From: "RICHARD SCHULTHIES" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unnamed stillborns


IMHO, it is not 'obvious' just because a duplicate
name was used 'but obviously Maria lived for less than
2 years, and there is no record of Teresa surviving
childhood.' that the first child died. It is most
likely but I know of families with same named siblings
both surviving to adulthood. The famous George Foreman
named his 5 sons George. Why? No idea.
Rich in LA CA
--- Ward Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My grandmother, Maria, was a twin. I don't have her
original Italian birth
record (only an extract), but I know that they do
mention on these records
that the baby is a twin. I seem to recall seeing at
least one where the
birth record for the live twin mentioned that the
other twin was stillborn.
There may not have been a record for the other twin.

Anyway, I gave the stillborn twin the name '[Maria's
twin]'. And since I set
the Child's Status to 'Stillborn Twin', the
following appears in the
children's list in Family View: '[Maria's twin]
MATARRESE (1891-1891)
(Stillborn Twin)'. The child's status does not
appear in the master name
list, but you can search on it.

BTW, another set of twins named Maria and Teresa
were born 2 years earlier.
I don't have their death records, but obviously
Maria lived for less than 2
years, and there is no record of Teresa surviving
childhood. These were hard
times.

   Ward





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