Don, Sorry to say I have not submitted it as a suggestion, but I will rectify that oversight. Thanks for reminding me.
Chick On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Don Varner<donvarn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Chick, > > Just curious. Have you made use of the "Suggest a new feature" on the home > tab? It would seem to me that if enough people suggested this then it would > be consider by Legacy. > > Don > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Chick Lewis <cglewi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Ron, >> >> I agree the wildcard could be an additional feature, but a wild card >> search for the name Querido, which is the one I was looking for, would >> never turn up either Kerido or Crudo. However, those two names with >> similar birth dates stood out when the index was sorted on birth date >> and immediately raised a flag. >> >> When I am trying to find an elusive ancestor and know his birth date >> or approximate birth date, I use FTM to sort my DB by birth, and then >> look for a likely name in that date range. >> >> On occasion I have found a name that wasn't even close to the one I >> was looking for, but I recognized it as a family name. Further >> investigation found that person was living with a relative and using >> their name. Subsequent records proved that person was the missing >> ancestor. >> >> I agree that it can be done in Legacy using a date range in search and >> find, but just sorting the db by birth date is so much easier and >> simpler. >> >> As I'm sure you are aware, some cultures use the mother's maiden name >> as the family name and as you trace back in time you will find that >> they are sometimes interchanged. Surnames can also change from country >> to country and in some places didn't even exist before 1800. When >> tracing Jewish ancestry it gets even more complicated and multiple >> surnames may be found in the same family. I have seen cases where two >> brothers have different surnames. >> >> The ability to sort on birth date is a proven tool. >> >> Chick >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:44 PM, ronald ferguson<ronfe...@msn.com> wrote: >> > >> > Chick, >> > >> > I guess I did not express myself too well, the wildcard was suggested as >> > an additional feature. >> > >> > Let us be realistic, one doesn't need any names at all to search by >> > birth date, if two or more people are born on 16 Jan 1725 the odds are they >> > are the same person or twins. This is not the problem. The problem arises >> > mainly when the dates are different or no dates are available for at least >> > one of the people. >> > >> > In the first case additional proof is needed to confirm, or otherwise, >> > but if the names are miles apart in the list, and they could be if there is >> > no date of birth, they may well not even be noticed if the name is >> > different >> > - unless wildcards are used. For example I commonly use F?rg* for my >> > surname >> > because of all the variations (and even that doesn't cover all of them!). >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Ron Ferguson >> > >> > _____________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced >> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> > View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: >> > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >> > For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: >> > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >> > _____________________________________________________________________ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:30:25 -0700 >> >> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See >> >> From: cglewi...@gmail.com >> >> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> >> >> >> Ron, >> >> >> >> I raised this question again because I think it is important and is a >> >> strong feature if understood and used properly. With all due respect, >> >> (and I do respect your judgement, advice and excellent posts) your >> >> suggestion of using wild cards in the name in conjunction with a birth >> >> date search is at best a clumsy way of detecting possible duplicates. >> >> In the case of Rebecca's example of a Thomas Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and >> >> a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725, they would stand out as a possible >> >> duplication by doing nothing more than sorting on birth date. In >> >> another example, I had a David Kerido and a floater Dave Crudo in my >> >> data base, both with close, but not exactly the same birth dates. When >> >> I sorted the index on birth date, the similarity was evident. Upon >> >> further investigation they turned out to be the same person. >> >> >> >> Chick >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:32 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Chuck, >> >>> >> >>> We have had this discussion before, and I wonder why you have raised >> >>> it agin. There is, as you know, a way of putting in an enhancement >> >>> request >> >>> on the Legacy Home Screen. >> >>> >> >>> For me, I would not wish to use this facility, and it would, therefore >> >>> be program bloat. BTW, you did not indicate it would be "optional" in >> >>> your >> >>> first post. >> >>> >> >>> I do not agree with your comment regarding the use of search; if it is >> >>> used properly, one can, for example, use wildcards in a name should you >> >>> wish, and use it in conjunction with a date of birth. Much more useful >> >>> and >> >>> more pwerful then your proposal. >> >>> >> >>> Even in the indexes you can get all the people will the same surname, >> >>> in date of birth order by selecting the RIN of the individual you wish to >> >>> use as standard and then click the surname button at the top. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Ron Ferguson >> >>> >> >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced >> >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> >>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: >> >>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >> >>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: >> >>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >> >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ---------------------------------------- >> >>>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:58:19 -0700 >> >>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See >> >>>> From: cglewi...@gmail.com >> >>>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> >>>> >> >>>> Ron, >> >>>> Why wouldn't you want the program to detect a possible duplicate when >> >>>> the name is entered? It could be a great time-saver and its use >> >>>> optional. As to the Search>Find option, I think we had this >> >>>> discussion once before. It does work in a round-about sort of way but >> >>>> is not the same thing and not near as effective. Rebecca gave an >> >>>> excellent example of this. >> >>>> >> >>>> Chick >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:26 PM, ronald ferguson wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Chick, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I wouldn't want the first and the second you can already do by using >> >>>>> the Search>Find>Detailed Search option. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Ron Ferguson >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _____________________________________________________________________ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Tutorials: Programme of adding videos commenced >> >>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/ >> >>>>> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: >> >>>>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ >> >>>>> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: >> >>>>> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> _____________________________________________________________________ >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ---------------------------------------- >> >>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:15:13 -0700 >> >>>>>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Things I Would Like to See >> >>>>>> From: cglewi...@gmail.com >> >>>>>> To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I have been using Legacy for almost a year now (since V7 came out.) >> >>>>>> My previous program was Family Tree Maker. Following are two >> >>>>>> features >> >>>>>> that I would like to see incorporated into Legacy: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 1. The ability for Legacy to recognize a possible duplicate person >> >>>>>> when he/she is being entered. I search for duplicates quite often >> >>>>>> because I have inadvertenly entered a person without realizing >> >>>>>> he/she >> >>>>>> is already in my database. I know how to use the merge function and >> >>>>>> search for duplicates, but it would be nice if Legacy would "catch" >> >>>>>> a >> >>>>>> duplication when the name is being entered and warn that it is a >> >>>>>> possible duplicate. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2. The ability to sort/search the index by birth date as well as >> >>>>>> alphabetically or by RIN. This is one feature of FTM I really miss. >> >>>>>> I >> >>>>>> often found people who were the same, but had their names spelled >> >>>>>> slightly different. Comparing individuals by birth date rather than >> >>>>>> name will sometimes reveal the existence of an un-connected >> >>>>>> individual >> >>>>>> with a different name or name change. I have had several instances >> >>>>>> where I have been able to connect individuals to families by >> >>>>>> comparing >> >>>>>> birth dates. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> If enough of us request these features, maybe the powers to be will >> >>>>>> incorporate them into the next upgrade. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Chick Lewis >> >>>>>> California >> >>> >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Windows Live Messenger: Thanks for 10 great years—enjoy free winks and >> > emoticons. >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ >> > >> > >> > Legacy User Group guidelines: >> > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> > Archived messages: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> Legacy User Group guidelines: >> http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >> Archived messages: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >> Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >> To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp >> >> >> > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
