Cathy:

I'm thinking that when I've scanned hundreds of pages from genealogy books that 
I allowed Acrobat versions 8 or 9 to OCR the pages, but saved the documents as 
a separate file so they would not overwrite my original scans.  Then you can 
copy and paste the text from the PDF OCR'd pages into a word processor or 
Legacy.

You might want to generate the reports in Legacy then transfer them over to a 
word processor which may mean having to import the images separately if they 
can't be incorporated into a Legacy report.  You could put a placeholder in the 
text of the notes indicating the filename of the image so you know where the 
images will go.

I'm still fuzzy about the text in the PDF exported by Legacy.  Should this 
already be in a text format, or is it an image?  Usually Acrobat skips images 
that do not contain any scanned text or it gives you junk text in its place 
that you can delete.  Also, Legacy's PDF format is pretty much outdated as was 
mentioned some time ago.  You might have to resave it to your current version, 
but I wouldn't think that would really make much difference.

Sounds like a huge but interesting project.

Bill Boswell

-----Original Message-----
From: Cathy Vallevieni [mailto:cathyv...@cox.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:50 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and Pictures

William & Charles:

Thank you for your response to my posting.

I have Adobe Acrobat Professional but it will not change the Legacy
PDF into OCR because the file contains the pictures I want to
retain.  It will only change an all text file into OCR.

I have Microsoft Word but .rtf loses the event pictures and .txt
loses all pictures + formatting.

The reasoning for moving the Notes to the top is I've used that
section to write a Family Biography (a story-type summary of the full
history of the husband and wife and their life together with family
stories and remembrances and descriptions of the personalities of the
people--kinda like you would seen in a biography book).  I'd like the
flow to be the overall summary of the people followed by the "facts
and events" for the husband followed by the "facts and events" for
the wife followed by the "facts and events" for the marriage.  A
reader can just read the overall summary or can get into more detail
by reading the facts with the detail of the Census', occupation (some
with pictures like the store they owned or an ad they ran),
residences with pictures of the house they lived in, etc.

I'm guessing what I want to do can't be done but thought I'd ask.

I'm preparing for a family reunion and have books with sections for
each marriage/family and would like the sections to begin with this
report followed by the photos and all documents for the couple.

Cathy Vallevieni
Orange County, CA

At 03:12 AM 1/3/2010, you wrote:
>Cathy:
>
>I was going to mention PDF, but you said you can't change it to
>OCR.  Adobe Acrobat (not the PDF Reader) has OCR capabilities within
>the program, but usually only for images that contain text.  Sending
>a Legacy report to PDF should be all text anyway so no OCR needed
>for that and should retain all fonts.  I don't know about PDF
>knockoff programs.  I know Acrobat is a bit pricey though.
>
>The only other alternative is to use a word processor.  If you don't
>have one, you can always download OpenOffice.org which is free and a
>full suite of office programs.  Then to retain any special fonts and
>formatting, you can export it to PDF.
>
>I've found one of the best programs to have for genealogy is the
>full version of Acrobat because you can scan everything into PDFs
>and attach them to sources in Legacy.
>
>I don't really understand the reasoning for moving the notes section
>to the top.  You mention it contains graphics.  Are these source
>graphics?  Are the notes Footnotes/Endnotes?  Are you trying to make
>the report accessible by others so they can make their own changes?
>
>Bill Boswell
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Cathy Vallevieni [mailto:cathyv...@cox.net]
>Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 4:31 AM
>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>Subject: [LegacyUG] Family Group Report with Editable Text and Pictures
>
>Is there a way to create a Family Group Report that retains the
>formatting and the individual & event pictures but has the ability to
>move the Notes to the beginning of the report?
>
>I tried .txt but that loses the pictures and the bold headlines and
>text (I know I can manually add the photos and change each headline
>and other text to bold but that's very time consuming for how many
>families I have).
>
>I tried .pdf but it can't be changed to OCR which is required for me
>to move the Notes section to the beginning of the report (I assume
>because there's pictures which are graphics?).
>
>I tried .html but I can't move the Notes section.
>
>If I copy it to the clipboard, it's a graphic of the report and I
>can't move the Notes section.
>
>I tried sending the Descendant and Descendant Narrative reports to
>.rtf but they do not contain the event pictures.
>
>If there's no way to do it, I'll use the Descendant Narrative in .rtf
>because it's the least changes but it doesn't look as nice as the
>Family Group Report.
>
>Thanks.
>
>Cathy Vallevieni
>Orange County, CA
>
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