AMEN to both comments. I used FTM for a dozen years or so, and thought having to buy a new program every year was quite the racket. Legacy upgrades have been free for the past 4-5 years. And the FTM overhaul in 2008 made it a totally different program that was a crime against genealogy. I bought 2008, 2009, 2010, maybe 2011, but gave up when none of them would produce genealogy reports that I could edit, and FTM customer service simply said it was good enough for everyone else. I started using Legacy before that, but kept hoping FTM would get better. Don't care if it ever did since then, I'm hooked on Legacy now (as is the LEAVITT Family Assn genealogy team).
I had also tried RM5 and was horrified. Luckily I only switched a small gedcom and quickly transferred it to Legacy and deleted RM and threw it in the trash rather than give it to anyone. All my "Notes" looked like they had been translated via OCR recognizing only letters instead of words, adding spaces in the middle of words and running other words together. If you want to spend your whole life learning software instead of actually doing genealogy, I hear TMG is good but even its proponents confess to the steep learning curve. I like to just DO IT without having to read directions first. Roland Rhoades Maine Families Genealogist www.RolandRhoades.com see...@maine.rr.com 2010: 30 Years as a Genealogist From: Larry Lee [mailto:ldlee...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 7:56 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar Not to mention how many genealogy programs have come and gone, and how many have been sold, merged and then dumped by a parent company. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Jackie King <jskin...@gmail.com> wrote: There is another way of viewing this. A number of my genealogical friends have dropped several programs (notably FTM in the lead) because of their frequent updates - each one of them costing users. They've moved to Legacy because of its relative stability. I'm more than pleased with Legacy. Yes, it might be nice for a major release a touch more often - but on the flip side, I have yet to have the responsiveness of tech support etc. that I have with Legacy - and for free. Yes, we can ask for more frequent major upgrades - but are you willing to bear the cost? Many of us find a yearly upgrade - and its associated fees - a bit much to swallow. I have my wish list - and with time I have seen Legacy address much of it. Having worked for a software company, I don't expect Legacy will ever address all my wishes - but it sure does better than most at trying. Cheers - Jackie On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Ronald Bernier <ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org> wrote: Don, Legacy 7.0 was released on May 1, 2008. Legacy 7.5 was released on January 30, 2010. I respectfully disagree that Legacy 7.5 was a major update. The biggest item added to Legacy 7.5 was the ability to connect to New Family Search. It was more than a year after the release of 7.5 that some users were able to start connecting to New Family Search. Granted, this issue was not something that Legacy had any control over, however, connecting to New Family Search is the primary reason that Millennia touted 7.5 as a “major update” when in fact it was anything but a major update. Yes, Legacy has had interim updates – mostly to fix bugs, and they have added some new features, but then there isn’t a software in existence that doesn’t release interim bug fixes and minor new features during the lifespan of a version. Bottom line, version 8 will be released when it is released – nevertheless, I think the folks at Legacy have lost a lot of ground due to the fact that it has been 5+ years since they have released a major version upgrade – unfortunately, Legacy has become very stale. The one screenshot that was briefly shown yesterday doesn’t give me a lot of hope and/or confidence that Legacy 8 is going to gain any of the ground that they have lost. From: donvarn...@gmail.com [mailto:donvarn...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 4:44 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar I totally agree with Ward. I well remember the clamor over the "hurried" introduction of 7.5. There were several major bugs to contend with and it took what seemed like months to get the major issues ironed out. In fact the LUG was a total disaster during the several weeks. Actually 7.5 was a fairly major update to 7.0 and I don't think it's been 5+ years since that came out. At the current time the only major benefit (that I can see) of RM over Legacy is the ability to sync with Family Search Family Tree. Legacy would sync with New Family Search but that is going away at the end of the month. I'm not sure where Legacy stands with FS Family Tree but that is a huge win for RM, especially if the user is LDS. I believe that is what Arlene is referring to. Certainly any new major release will include new bugs and will not be stable for awhile. That is a fact of life working with software. It doesn't matter if it's Millennia, Microsoft, Roots Magic or who. Sent from Alto - altomail.com _____ From: wnkwal...@rogers.com <mailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com%3cwnkwal...@rogers.com> <wnkwal...@rogers.com> To: <LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com> Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar I think you are being a bit hard on Millennia. I have rarely used a product with such frequent updates for fixes and small enhancements, and such responsive and involved (LUG) customer support. Yes, we each have some pet issues that have not been addressed, but this is normal for a complex software product. (I have been on the other end of this process – there are never enough resources to deal with all the bugs and enhancement requests.) I did not watch the webinar and I have no particular expectation for Legacy 8. In fact, I would prefer to see more refinements to Legacy 7 than have to deal with any sweeping changes. (And we have to pay for major releases.) What is so special about RM or other competing products that suggests that Legacy has fallen behind? Even if a competing product has a particular feature that Legacy lacks, wouldn’t that product still have a typical list of defects and shortcomings as well? Will Legacy 8 leapfrog the competition in terms of features, and still be stable and not introduce any new defects? Ward From: Ronald Bernier <mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:24 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar Arlene, It has been roughly 5 years since Legacy 7 was released. I don’t want to see Legacy 8 released before it is time, but frankly I think it is ridiculous that it has taken 5+ years between major releases. With Legacy’s track record, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if it is the end of the year before Legacy 8 is released. Quite frankly, I was totally disappointed with the “preview” that was shown today. It was not worth the time or effort to briefly show a screen shot that was not all that clear to begin with. Based on Geoff’s email to the list, I thought there would be more of a mini preview than one very brief screenshot. Ron Bernier From: Arlene [mailto:alv...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:48 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar I am disappointed that it may take as long as 'by the end of the year'. I have had to stop giving lesson at our center Legacy. 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