Why won't Legacy use decimal coordinates which are quite prevalent nowadays?
On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:25 PM, John B. Lisle <leg...@tqsi.com> wrote: > Pam, > > Please indulge me to talk about Location in > Legacy 8. Actually, little has changed since > Legacy 7 but many users do not have a strategy > for locations and mapping and such. > > --> One of the major changes (and it is rather > minor) for L8 is that the GeoDB is now unified. > Instead of picking and choosing which regions you > want, you get to install a file that has all > regions. The file is a large download but it is > about the same size as the program installer file > so it should be no more of a problem to download. > Everyone should want to download and install this for L8. > > Legacy has 2 tools for Geo Coding your locations. > Unfortunately, both operate, more or less, based > on current place names, not historical place names. > > The strategy I use for a historical name is to > determine what the name of the place is now and > use the Bing map to find it. And, if that does > not work, try to find it with the GeoDB. > > ---> The GeoDB can be made to format the name of > a location with great flexibility using the > GeoCode-alt.txt files, but that is another lessone.... ;-) > > Then, if found, go back to the Bing Map to use > more precise right click placement. > > --> Sometimes, neither works. This is when I go > to Wikipedia or Google to have one of them try to > show me where the place is. Then "transfer" those > coordinates to Legacy. I will make a lot of use > of the Bing satellite views to try to place the > pin at the most favorable location. > > Once I have the location resolved, I will then > create a new location with the historical name, > prefixed by the current name. When editing the > name, I check the box that says do not automatically geocode. > > Then I go to the present day location, showing > the pin where the place is, then move to > historical named place and right click the pin to > the same place. Then edit the location to remove > the prefix new name which I only added so the two > places were next to each other in the place list. > > This may sound confusing, but once you have done > it once or twice it becomes easy. And you can > figure out shortcuts to the process. > > I have done 1000s of locations using these techniques. > > Please note that the Bing maps can give a more > precise location than the GeoDB. But the GeoDB is > a great tool for assuring that the location name > is constructed correctly and all of the parts are spelled correctly. > > For most US, Canada, and UK locations, the less > info you give Bing, the better it does. IE, > adding a county will often confuse it. For US, it keys off of City and > state. > > OK? > > Do you have more questions? > > john. > > At 12:25 PM 12/3/2013, Pam Gosling wrote: > >Hello, > > > >I there any recommended format to list locations > >for the older Prussian now Pommeranian areas of > >former Germany now Poland? I’m new to this, > >and in the archives from 2010, it seems that it > >is not possible for the Geobase to properly > >identify these locations?  So, if this is true, are these my only > options?: > > > >1. Just not use the geobase feature and > >list the location as well as possible? > >2. Look up lat/long date from online maps > >and insert to program? Or does that even work? > >3. Another idea? > >4. If I do add lat/long to database, does > >that get saved for others to use? Or just my file? > > > >If there is no way to use this mapping feature > >for international locations, is there a standard > >recommended format for myself to list, just so I have the proper format > anyway: > > > >For example: > > > >Zeitlitz, Kreis Regenwalde, Pommerania, Prussia (old German ) > > > >Which is now in: > > > >( town Polish not yet translated), > >Resko(Regenwalde), Lobez(“like county†> >missing the Poland diacritical mark), Poland > > > >e.g. should I write either the (old) or > >new/current names in parentheses/inside > >brackets, with hyphens, or only list the current > >names and describe older German names in notes or something? Or what? > > > >And, is there a way to import the Polish > >diacritical letters(?right way to describe > >them?); they are not included in the options I > >can click on. When I tried to paste one to the > >family name in the address location field, it didn’t keep the mark. > > > >I want to write the locations in such a way so > >that in the future if the mapping function for > >international locations ever comes about, I > >don’t want to have to rewrite all of these. > > > >And, I’m assuming this applies to both > >“events†such as residence, and the address > >field for births, deaths, etc? Or would that make a difference? > > > >Thanks so much for all the gracious help on this list; very appreciated. > Pam > > > > > > > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: > >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > >Follow Legacy on Facebook > >(http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > >on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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