Cathy, This explanation is excellent! A keeper, for when I finally upgrade. It does indeed clarify the upgrade process and foundational changes that come with v8. THANKS! --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Sanford Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
________________________________ From: Cathy Pinner <genea...@gmail.com> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Updateing from Legacy 7 to Legacy 8 Hi Bob, The change with Legacy 8 is that the program itself is installed to Program Files. A folder is created in My Documents called Legacy Family Tree. In that folder is a folder called _AppData. This folder contains all your settings. You cannot place this folder anywhere else. If you move it, it will be recreated when you open Legacy next and you will have lost your specific settings and be back with the defaults. In that folder (Documents/Legacy Family Tree) is also a folder for Data and a folder for Media populated with the Sample File and the Sample File pictures. You can use these folders for your own data or put your own data wherever you like. If you know you have good backups of your Legacy 7 data and you are happy with where the Legacy 7 data is, you can convert the files where they are. You can't go back from Legacy 8 so without a good backup, you can't still use Legacy 7 for that report you must have today but find there is a bug in Legacy 8. I wouldn't convert files where they are but I'm a belt and braces person when it comes to important data. Most likely wherever the converted file is you'll find your media is still all linked. If you want your data somewhere other than where your Legacy 7 data is or the new default location THEN you need to open Legacy 8 with the Sample file and change the Default Location for data in the options - customise 6.1 BEFORE asking to open your own file(s). Legacy 8 will offer to copy it to the Default Data Location - whatever is listed in 6.1 and convert it there. Note that all the Options - Customise settings now have a number. Some people find that some or all of the media is not still linked. This is because over the years the exact way the link has been saved has changed and if you've never shifted the media, Legacy has been very accommodating. The programmers realised that by being so accommodating, they were sometimes linking to a different photo of the same name so have made changes to ensure this doesn't happen. If some or all of your media isn't linked after the conversion, using the Media Relinker Tool is the easiest way to go. Those reading this who have been using the old Legacy defaults of C:\Legacy\Data ad C:\Legacy\Pictures etc would be wise to let Legacy 8 help you move to the new defaults with the conversion open to copy the file to the new default and then convert - and the Gather my Media Tool to copy your media if you're not confident with using Windows/File Explorer to move files around. Does that clarify at all? Cathy At 05:16 AM 17/12/2013, you wrote: >I too have been curious about this. The folder structure of Legacy 7 >and earlier was different from what I've seen/heard for Legacy 8. For >Legacy 7 and earlier I believe the default was: >Data >...docs >...pictures >...sounds >...videos >(Or was Data folder, by default, at the same level as the others . . . I >forget) > >But with Legacy 8 it appears it is: >main folder >...data >...media > >Do pictures, sounds, videos, and docs all default to this one "media" >folder now? (assuming one starts from scratch and accepts the >defaults.) I do not see a way to individually specify these individual >media locations under Legacy 8 - all I see is ONE setting at 6.2. Do >they get stored in sub-folders under media, such as: >...media/pictures >...media/docs >...media/video >...media/sounds > >What about when I open my Legacy 7 file using Legacy 8 and it converts >it and makes a brand new database, does it move EVERYTHING to the new >location(s)? Or are my pictures left at their old location? > >Personally, I've always created this folder structure to avoid the >"windows rules" when it gets stored under "My Documents". This allowed >others to more easily get to the files if they logged into my computer >under their name. >windata >...legacy7 >...,,,PattonTree >...,,,...Data >...,,,...Docs >...,,,...pictures >...,,,...Sounds >...,,,...video >...,,,TestTree >...,,,...Data >...,,,...Docs >...,,,...pictures >...,,,...Sounds >...,,,...video >...,,,SampleTree >etc. > >I'm using the ... and ,,, as a simple way to indicate a folder level. >A more accurate way of showing it would be: >C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Data >C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\Docs >C:\windata\Legacy-v7\Patton-tree\pictures >etc... > >Again - my concern - when I convert to Legacy version 8 - do the media >files stay where they are and the version 8 pointers point to the old >location? Or do the data AND THE MEDIA files all get moved to one of >these 2 locations: >C:\Documents and Settings\Bob\My Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Data >C:\Documents and Settings\Bob\My Documents\Legacy Family Tree\Media >(again, I'm talking by default. I'm assuming I can manually put them >where ever I want if I want to mess with and override the program defaults.) > >If Legacy 8 moves the media files, what about any media files contained >in the version 7 folders that is NOT referenced directly by legacy 7 - >will they get moved? (Foolishly I have a folder under my pictures >folder of my "unshrunk pictures" - and these files are NOT referenced >anyplace within Legacy.) > >If the media files stay where they are (under my legacy7 folder), what's >the easiest way of moving them and relinking them? (That is, can the >program move them, or do I move them manually and then do a relink >within the program?) > >Thanks, >Bob > >On 12/16/2013 14:46, Michele/Support wrote: > > After I went from 7.5 to 8 all of my links were intact. I didn't > have to relink anything. > > > > > > Michele > > Technical Support > > mich...@legacyfamilytree.com > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Paula Ryburn > <paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> Hi, I have not yet upgraded to v8 and have just been "lurking" on the > >> list, reading some threads on the upgrade... but am I reading this > >> correctly? All my media will be "unlinked" during the upgrade > >> process?? I mean, I see you say there are "two new tools" to help me > >> relink my media, but surely I shouldn't have to DO anything... the > >> upgrade process should give me a fully linked, fully functional set of > >> data, right? Call me naive, but I can't imagine Millenia would > be that sloppy. > >> Thanks in advance for clearing up my misunderstanding, --Paula > >> > >> > >> <snip> > >> > >> The pictures will also be there but just not linked properly in the > >> converted file. > >> > >> Legacy 8 has two new tools to help you. > >> > >> The first one in the Media Relinker. This may take a while but it will > >> help you relink all your media. > >> > >> The second one is the Gather My Media tool. This can help you gather > >> all your media into one folder if it is scattered all over the place > >> OR can gather just the odd file that you forgot to put into your media > >> folder or a sub-folder of that media folder. > > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > > Follow Legacy on Facebook > (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog > (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > > > > > > > > >Legacy User Group guidelines: >http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp >Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: >http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ >Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp >Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) >and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). >To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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