Okay, have a couple of pieces of information to work with now, so will see if I can get a handle on this! Thanks!
On Sun, Jan 24, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Henry T. Peterson Jr. <hpete...@cox.net> wrote: > *Barbara* > > > > *Go to Options-Customize* > > *Choose Locations Tab* > > *Next Look at the Default Location of family files* > > > > *THAT is where to file you are using should be located.* > > *This if from Legacy 7.5 (which I believe is the same as in Version 6.0)* > > > > *Move **the most up to date file** to that location using file manager.* > > > > *Good luck* > > *Henry* > > > > > > *From:* Barbara Ford [mailto:pastors...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, January 24, 2016 4:35 PM > *To:* legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com > *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Help, please > > > > Maybe I can simplify by asking this question: Where do I look (in Legacy) > to see where my data is going? I want it to go to C:\Legacy\Data. And then > can I safely delete that "stray" link on my desktop? I only want ONE way to > access Legacy. > > Barbara > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 24, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Barbara Ford <pastors...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Oh dear. I am even more confused. Even though I have been using computers > since the mid-80's and consider myself fairly tech savvy, sometimes I > wonder what made me think I could successfully use and understand a program > so robust as Legacy. I want to be very careful with what I do next, because > I believe all my data was intact and in the places where I expected it to > be just prior to entering the death information about my father-in-law a > couple of days ago. So, I think that maybe if I ask my questions one at a > time, I will better be able to understand what I need to do to move forward > with a clear understanding (and if I need to manually re-enter the info > about my FIL, that's no big deal). So, once I open the file that was up to > date prior to the FIL data, THAT is the way I would want to save it, going > forward. > > > > I'm not even sure if I am making sense. But, at the foundational level, I > need to know if what I have understood (and has worked for me) for years is > correct (for v 6): > > I understood that Legacy saves data on the fly (while I am working and > when I exit), automatically. It was my understanding that data saves in > c:\Legacy\Data and that within that folder, the file is familytreewip.fdb. > IN ADDITION to that, and as an extra precaution, when I exit, I am asked if > I want to backup. I always understood that to be EXTRA backup--it is at > that point that I name the file and point it to My Documents folder, and I > name it with the date; it is a zip file. So, first I need to know if those > two things are correct. (I have made myself a note, years ago, that if I > ever need to reinstall Legacy, it would know to look on C:\Legacy for my > data. That has always worked for me.) > > > > Meanwhile, I do not know how or when, there is a link on my desktop that I > believe is basically a shortcut to my data, as when I right click on it, it > says familytreewip.fdb. (A few years ago, when I had trouble getting Legacy > 6 to work with my new Windows 7, someone in this group helped me....it may > have been in that process that the link got put on my desktop. I have never > used it to open Legacy--I have always used the software icon, to my > knowledge.) > > > > It almost seems to me like there are two ways to access Legacy on my > laptop: one, the Legacy 6.0 icon, which when hovering over, says, Location: > Legacy (C:\Legacy) and then there is this link that is there that I have > never knowingly used, that is labeled familytreewip.fdb but when hovering > over says Type: Legacy Genealogy Software, 12.7 MB, and has today's date as > the date modified (because I opened Legacy with that icon awhile ago when I > realized it was there). > > > > While in Charting Companion, noticing that it was not using the most > recent data about my FIL, I saw a reference to two locations for the data, > one being my desktop. > > > > So now, if I open Legacy by clicking on the desktop link, it does have the > most recent info about my FIL's death, but it does not have the information > about my mother's death, two years ago. > > > > I do not want to merge data or do anything extreme, because I think all > was well until entering FIL's data a couple of days ago. So, I could open > the file from the C:\Legacy\Data location of the file, and then manually > re-enter the FIL data. BUT before I do that, I need to understand where my > data is going (how to I find the default location for my file), and I would > then want to make sure I never use that desktop link again. > > > > I am so sorry that I cannot seem to express my question in a concise and > reasonable manner. I so appreciate everyone's efforts to help me, I just > don't like using something that I don't have at least a rudimentary grasp > on how it works, in terms of data safety. I thought I had it, but sure > don't understand what just happened! > > > > If anyone is brave enough to jump into my confusion again, I do truly > appreciate it. > > Barbara > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On Jan 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, R G Strong-genes <rgstrongge...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Barbara, > Is the one on the desktop a folder or is it a link to your data folder? If > it actually a folder with just the familytreewip.fdb and user files > associated with that family file and it has the most current file > information then you can just copy all those files to your Data folder for > Legacy. Then open legacy and search for the file you want to open. Then > check your Legacy options and specify how you want to open legacy. It is > probably set to open the last file opened. When you are working on Legacy > the changes are always in the file you are working on where ever it is > located. So when it closes if it doesn't ask for a backup it will be the > same folder that you opened it from, if you happen to have that file in a > different folder and open it from that folder you will not see the changes > as they are actually in a different file. When you back up a file either > by > requesting a backup or when you close and it asks for one make sure the > path > is where you want it before you click save. The newer versions actually > append the date and time to the backup so if you have several with the > same > file name you will know which is the latest backup. It is always best to > keep your working family files in the same location so you know where your > up to date files are. If you need to store them on another drive then I > would recommend just saving the backup file of it on another drive and > when > you want to work on it then you can restore the family file to your > working > directory. I use google drive and only store my backups to that drive. I > also store a copy of the legacy installation file, registration file, and > user files for Legacy in there own folders on the google drive. I have > both > Legacy 7.5 and 8 on my computer so I have a folder for each version on the > google drive for the corresponding programs. > > If you have different updates to your family file in more than one folder > and you want to get them all into one file and they are copies from the > same > family file then you should be able to use the intellishare options under > the find duplicates merge function. Open the oldest file and merge the > changed files into it. > > from the help file: > > Here is how IntelliShare works: > > Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.) > One person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" > (Keeper > for short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically > marks all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that > uniquely identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the > Family File to all the other people participating in the group. > > Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, > delete > or unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can > also make changes and additions to the master file. > > After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a > copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation. > > The Keeper then follows this procedure: > > Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a > backup of course). > > Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates. > > From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and > choose > the IntelliShare option. > > Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options > window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values > and automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At > the end of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more > persons have made changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when > deciding to merge. If the parents, spouses or children are different in > any > way, the two individuals are displayed along with a message describing the > situation. All these messages are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG. > Legacy offers to display this file at the end of the merge process. > > The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones > that have been changed by someone in the group. > > At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is > displayed. > > After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a new copy of the family > file > back to the other group members for more changes and additions. > > Legacy's IntelliShare greatly reduces the drudgery involved when going > through the typical match-merge process needed to combine two or more > files. > > hope this helps, > > Russ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barbara Ford > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 2:05 PM > To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > Subject: [LegacyUG] Help, please > > > I have been using Legacy for years, and although still using version 6.0, > because I haven't done any serious research work since I was using that > version, I thought I was very "on" to how the backups work. In my mind, > there is an "on the fly" backup that puts data in > C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb (with familytreewip being the "name" of > my > data). Then when I exit the program, when it prompts me to back up, I also > do that, and that is a zip file that I keep in my documents folder. In the > last three years, while I have not been actively involved in research, we > have lost three of our parents, and I have updated Legacy with all that > information. Today I have discovered that the data has been going to > different places (do not understand how that could have happened). I > discovered it (and maybe this will help with troubleshooting) when I tried > to use Legacy Charting Companion and it wasn't bringing in the death > information from Legacy, just posted a couple of days ago. I have now > figured out that there is a familytreewip.fdb folder on my desktop. Some > of > the data I have entered in the last three years is there (visible when I > open Legacy from that file), and when I go to > C:\Legacy\Data\familytreewip.fdb, the most recent data is NOT there (and > therefore not coming in to Charting Companion). Once I open Legacy from > one > location or the other, it opens it back up from there the next time I open > Legacy. So, now there is one "version" of Legacy that has recent death > information, and then the one out on C:\Legacy has data updated two years > ago. I do not know what to do, and right after the death of my > father-in-law > is NOT a good time for me to realize something is wrong. Mainly, I don't > know how to bring it together, and I don't know how to tell where it is > actually going when I exit NOW. I do periodically copy the contents of > c:\Legacy\Data to an external hard drive, and I have done that fairly > recently. But even if I open the Legacy program from there, and discover > that the only thing I have to re-input is my father-in-law's death > information, I'm so confused now about where it all goes when I exit. I > guess my main confusion is why it is sometimes going to the desktop file > (and why is it even there?) and not to C:\Legacy. I am so sorry to be so > unclear, but can anyone help me? I'm not so concerned about the Charting > Companion--that's just what helped me discover that data is not going > where > I thought it was, when exiting. > Barbara Ford > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp> > > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com > <http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/>). > > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp> > > > > <Http://scrappermamo.blogspot.com/> > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 24, 2016, at 2:45 PM, R G Strong-genes <rgstrongge...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Barbara, > Is the one on the desktop a folder or is it a link to your data folder? If > it actually a folder with just the familytreewip.fdb and user files > associated with that family file and it has the most current file > information then you can just copy all those files to your Data folder for > Legacy. Then open legacy and search for the file you want to open. Then > check your Legacy options and specify how you want to open legacy. It is > probably set to open the last file opened. When you are working on Legacy > the changes are always in the file you are working on where ever it is > located. So when it closes if it doesn't ask for a backup it will be the > same folder that you opened it from, if you happen to have that file in a > different folder and open it from that folder you will not see the changes > as they are actually in a different file. When you back up a file either > by > requesting a backup or when you close and it asks for one make sure the > path > is where you want it before you click save. The newer versions actually > append the date and time to the backup so if you have several with the > same > file name you will know which is the latest backup. It is always best to > keep your working family files in the same location so you know where your > up to date files are. If you need to store them on another drive then I > would recommend just saving the backup file of it on another drive and > when > you want to work on it then you can restore the family file to your > working > directory. I use google drive and only store my backups to that drive. I > also store a copy of the legacy installation file, registration file, and > user files for Legacy in there own folders on the google drive. I have > both > Legacy 7.5 and 8 on my computer so I have a folder for each version on the > google drive for the corresponding programs. > > If you have different updates to your family file in more than one folder > and you want to get them all into one file and they are copies from the > same > family file then you should be able to use the intellishare options under > the find duplicates merge function. Open the oldest file and merge the > changed files into it. > > from the help file: > > Here is how IntelliShare works: > > Form a research group of two or more people. (Each must be using Legacy.) > One person in the group is designated as the "Keeper of the Records" > (Keeper > for short). This person keeps the master Family File. Legacy automatically > marks all the records in the Master Family File with a serial number that > uniquely identifies each individual. The Keeper now sends a copy of the > Family File to all the other people participating in the group. > > Any or all members of the group can make changes to existing records, > delete > or unlink records, or add new records to the family file. The Keeper can > also make changes and additions to the master file. > > After an agreed upon interval of time, all members of the group return a > copy of the family file to the Keeper for merging and reconciliation. > > The Keeper then follows this procedure: > > Import all copies of the family file into the master copy (after making a > backup of course). > > Press the Merge button and choose Find Duplicates. > > From the Merge Options window, click on the Special Searches tab and > choose > the IntelliShare option. > > Press the Continue button in the upper right corner of the Merge Options > window. Legacy searches for all records with matching IntelliShare values > and automatically merges those that have exactly the same information. At > the end of this process Legacy displays the records where one or more > persons have made changes. Legacy also looks at all surrounding links when > deciding to merge. If the parents, spouses or children are different in > any > way, the two individuals are displayed along with a message describing the > situation. All these messages are also saved in a file called MERGE.LOG. > Legacy offers to display this file at the end of the merge process. > > The only records the Keeper has to look at and merge together are the ones > that have been changed by someone in the group. > > At the end of the merge process, a list of any newly added individuals is > displayed. > > After the merge is complete, the Keeper sends a new copy of the family > file > back to the other group members for more changes and additions. > > Legacy's IntelliShare greatly reduces the drudgery involved when going > through the typical match-merge process needed to combine two or more > files. > > hope this helps, > > Russ > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp> > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com > <http://news.legacyfamilytree.com>). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp> > > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ > Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://support.legacyfamilytree.com Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). 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