Actually, I use the full name for all locations. I am from Canada.
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 9:00 PM Donna Newell <djnewel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Great answer!
>
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Aug 3, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Ian Macaulay <macau...@icmac.ca> wrote:
>
> I Live in CA, Not California IMHO Acronyms are not proper English, and
> it confuses your Neighbors.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 3:14 PM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup <
> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:
>
>> I never had a Gedcom file not accept any location file whether it had
>> Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, or even Indianapolis, IN. not to mention
>> Indianapolis, xxx Township, Marion County, Indiana, United States of
>> America. You soon get the point that the latter is the creation of someone
>> who thinks that they need to police something totally not needed by anyone
>> with common sense, or a tad bit of education.
>>
>> Hoosierly yours,
>>
>> James G. Hermsen
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>>
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 03, 2019 09:43:25 AM EDT, <
>> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>> I agree with you.
>>
>> My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after
>> the referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old
>> location name into present day name and it is accepted by the different
>> Gedcom programs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Georges
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *De :* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> *De la
>> part de* Christopher Seward Sr
>> *Envoyé :* 3 août 2019 09:21
>> *À :* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
>>
>>
>>
>> James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling
>> data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity
>> issues. As I said, the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting
>> issues it will cause for those who come after.
>>
>>
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup <
>> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:
>>
>> Exactly my point. Putting historical location in the notes maintains all
>> the information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family
>> members. If people import information without looking at the notes, then
>> they are not being a good genealogist. It tells me that they just copy
>> things for numbers, not for reliable and useful information to share.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hoosierly yours,
>>
>>
>>
>> James G. Hermsen
>>
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>>
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>>
>>
>>
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>>
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 02, 2019 08:51:50 AM EDT, Bill Hoff <
>> bh...@mchsi.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many
>> relatives in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state
>> until June 20, 1863. On top of that many counties within the state were
>> divided over many years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there
>> is the problem of knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain
>> of entries
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. <csewar...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you
>> publish & share this information, your method goes against the standard,
>> and can cause issues.
>>
>> An example for me was importing a person's info into my file. I kept
>> getting import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist
>> on that date (birth date). Now I have an issue, since this place not only
>> didn't exist when this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a
>> different country than when he was born, thus making him appear to be of
>> one heritage, but was actually another.
>>
>> I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the
>> current name of the location in the notes.
>>
>> On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote:
>>
>> Yes, but in the notes. Most people I share my information with want to
>> know where the place is now. They, like Trump, have no regard for history,
>> and those who know their history, already know what the original name is.
>> Looking for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they
>> once were governed by. It is all about being usable for current people.
>> Otherwise, we would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hoosierly yours,
>>
>>
>>
>> James G. Hermsen
>>
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>>
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>>
>>
>>
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>>
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 01, 2019 01:22:29 PM EDT,
>> sarrazingeor...@gmail.com <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com>
>> <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated
>> in the documentation.
>>
>> If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly
>> brackets with the new name after the old name.
>>
>> Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val
>> de Loire, France
>>
>> (Note : I use 5 fields)
>>
>>
>>
>> Georges
>>
>>
>>
>> *De :* LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>
>> <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> *De la part de* James G.
>> Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup
>> *Envoyé :* 1 août 2019 09:26
>> *À :* mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> *Cc :* James G. Hermsen <jherm...@yahoo.com> <jherm...@yahoo.com>
>> *Objet :* Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania
>>
>>
>>
>> I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry
>> and in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different
>> then than it is today. That way when a grandchild (or anyone) wants to
>> find the place on a map is able to do so. Prussia is very hard to find, if
>> you did not know where to look. Same thing with names of cities whose name
>> has changed. Stalingrad, Linengrad don't make sense for someone born after
>> the Cold War. Peking vs. Bejing. Same thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Hoosierly yours,
>>
>>
>>
>> James G. Hermsen
>>
>> 8108 Laura Lynne Lane
>>
>> Indianapolis, IN 46217
>>
>>
>>
>> 317-679-1466 cell
>>
>> 317-881-4600 land line
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 01, 2019 08:43:54 AM EDT, mvmcgrs---
>> via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope you are not inserting the the added information if it is not in
>> the document. The jurisdictions change over time. In the US what was a
>> county in 1850 may be another county in 1860 and still another county by
>> 1870. The house did not move but the boundaries did.
>>
>>
>>
>> Marie
>>
>> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus
>> ______________________________ ______________________________ __
>> CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for
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>>
>> In a message dated 8/1/2019 6:24:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>> wrlinh...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>
>>
>> I do agree.
>>
>>
>>
>> My standard is: [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township,
>> village, city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country
>>
>> and apply to other countries similarly by always using three commas for
>> all locations [usually each has a repository of genealogical data] . The
>> entry might between comma's might be null if I don't have the information.
>> For example born in USA might be ", , , USA". I know I have some research
>> to do but I only record what I have from that source.
>>
>>
>>
>> For folder hierarchy and some naming situations I reverse the order but
>> always hold to 4 elements for location. I don't believe I have ever had an
>> exception. I am sure I will learn about one here. So far this works for
>> me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:20 AM Roberta Schwalm <
>> robertaschw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I do the same thing, Shirley. Most of my ancestors are from Scotland,
>> Ireland, England, Germany and a spattering of French. The only difference
>> is I use "province" instead of State.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:05 PM Shirley Crampton <scshenders...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I use Village, County, State, Country. Hopefully there is no more than 1
>> village of the same name in the County. If the place is rural then I put
>> the name of the township in the first position.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach <bluecorab...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that
>> are made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it?
>>
>> I have thought of the following:
>>
>> Village, township, county, state, United States
>>
>> or
>>
>> township-village, country, state, United States (I like this as all
>> villages within the township would be listed together)
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you, Connie.
>>
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