Well isn't CA an Acronym.
Ane From: LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> On Behalf Of Ian Macaulay Sent: Saturday, August 3, 2019 10:51 PM To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania I Live in CA, Not California IMHO Acronyms are not proper English, and it confuses your Neighbors. On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 3:14 PM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > wrote: I never had a Gedcom file not accept any location file whether it had Indianapolis, Marion Co., IN, or even Indianapolis, IN. not to mention Indianapolis, xxx Township, Marion County, Indiana, United States of America. You soon get the point that the latter is the creation of someone who thinks that they need to police something totally not needed by anyone with common sense, or a tad bit of education. Hoosierly yours, James G. Hermsen 8108 Laura Lynne Lane Indianapolis, IN 46217 317-679-1466 cell 317-881-4600 land line On Saturday, August 03, 2019 09:43:25 AM EDT, <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com <mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> > wrote: Christopher I agree with you. My suggestion of putting the present name between curly brackets after the referenced location name is simply an easy way to translate old location name into present day name and it is accepted by the different Gedcom programs. Georges De : LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> > De la part de Christopher Seward Sr Envoyé : 3 août 2019 09:21 À : Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania James, I understand where you're coming from. I just think that handling data in a manner that deviates from the standard is inviting data integrity issues. As I said, the choice is yours. Just be aware of the lasting issues it will cause for those who come after. Christopher On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 4:59 AM James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > wrote: Exactly my point. Putting historical location in the notes maintains all the information one needs and still be sensible and useful to family members. If people import information without looking at the notes, then they are not being a good genealogist. It tells me that they just copy things for numbers, not for reliable and useful information to share. Hoosierly yours, James G. Hermsen 8108 Laura Lynne Lane Indianapolis, IN 46217 317-679-1466 cell 317-881-4600 land line On Friday, August 02, 2019 08:51:50 AM EDT, Bill Hoff <bh...@mchsi.com <mailto:bh...@mchsi.com> > wrote: Then one cannot find on a map if historic locations used. With many relatives in West Virginia I have this problem. WV did not become a state until June 20, 1863. On top of that many counties within the state were divided over many years, far too many for me to recall them all. Then there is the problem of knowing locations but not dates so one cannot be certain of entries Bill Sent from my iPhone On Aug 1, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Seward Sr. <csewar...@gmail.com <mailto:csewar...@gmail.com> > wrote: You are free to record as you choose, but keep in mind that if you publish & share this information, your method goes against the standard, and can cause issues. An example for me was importing a person's info into my file. I kept getting import errors stating the the location (birth place) did not exist on that date (birth date). Now I have an issue, since this place not only didn't exist when this person was born, but when it did exist, it was in a different country than when he was born, thus making him appear to be of one heritage, but was actually another. I recommend ALWAYS putting the correct location in, and putting the current name of the location in the notes. On 8/1/2019 4:41 PM, James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup wrote: Yes, but in the notes. Most people I share my information with want to know where the place is now. They, like Trump, have no regard for history, and those who know their history, already know what the original name is. Looking for documents, the current place will know what jurisdiction they once were governed by. It is all about being usable for current people. Otherwise, we would all be recording everying in Latin like they once did. Hoosierly yours, James G. Hermsen 8108 Laura Lynne Lane Indianapolis, IN 46217 317-679-1466 cell 317-881-4600 land line On Thursday, August 01, 2019 01:22:29 PM EDT, sarrazingeor...@gmail.com <mailto:sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> <sarrazingeor...@gmail.com> wrote: I think one should always the name of a location the way it is indicated in the documentation. If the name has change or if two locations have been merge, I use curly brackets with the new name after the old name. Ex. Romorantin {Romorantin-Lanthenay}, 41194, Loir-et-Cher, Centre-Val de Loire, France (Note : I use 5 fields) Georges De : LegacyUserGroup <mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> De la part de James G. Hermsen via LegacyUserGroup Envoyé : 1 août 2019 09:26 À : mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> Cc : James G. Hermsen <mailto:jherm...@yahoo.com> <jherm...@yahoo.com> Objet : Re: [LegacyUG] Location names for Pennsylvania I always use the current geographic location and name today in each entry and in the notes, remark that the geographic name and country was different then than it is today. That way when a grandchild (or anyone) wants to find the place on a map is able to do so. Prussia is very hard to find, if you did not know where to look. Same thing with names of cities whose name has changed. Stalingrad, Linengrad don't make sense for someone born after the Cold War. Peking vs. Bejing. Same thing. Hoosierly yours, James G. Hermsen 8108 Laura Lynne Lane Indianapolis, IN 46217 317-679-1466 cell 317-881-4600 land line On Thursday, August 01, 2019 08:43:54 AM EDT, mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > wrote: I hope you are not inserting the the added information if it is not in the document. The jurisdictions change over time. In the US what was a county in 1850 may be another county in 1860 and still another county by 1870. The house did not move but the boundaries did. Marie Marie Varrelman Melchiori, Certified Genealogist Emeritus ______________________________ ______________________________ __ CG or Certified Genealogist is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by Board-certified genealogists after periodic competency evaluation, and the board name is registered in the US Patent & Trademark Office. In a message dated 8/1/2019 6:24:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, wrlinh...@gmail.com <mailto:wrlinh...@gmail.com> writes: I do agree. My standard is: [1. local jurisdiction/repository i.e.township, village, city, etc], 2.County, 3.State, 4.Country and apply to other countries similarly by always using three commas for all locations [usually each has a repository of genealogical data] . The entry might between comma's might be null if I don't have the information. For example born in USA might be ", , , USA". I know I have some research to do but I only record what I have from that source. For folder hierarchy and some naming situations I reverse the order but always hold to 4 elements for location. I don't believe I have ever had an exception. I am sure I will learn about one here. So far this works for me. Bill On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 12:20 AM Roberta Schwalm <robertaschw...@gmail.com <mailto:robertaschw...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do the same thing, Shirley. Most of my ancestors are from Scotland, Ireland, England, Germany and a spattering of French. The only difference is I use "province" instead of State. On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 9:05 PM Shirley Crampton <scshenders...@gmail.com <mailto:scshenders...@gmail.com> > wrote: I use Village, County, State, Country. Hopefully there is no more than 1 village of the same name in the County. If the place is rural then I put the name of the township in the first position. On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 5:47 PM Connie Laubach <bluecorab...@gmail.com <mailto:bluecorab...@gmail.com> > wrote: Trying to decide how to input the location names – I have townships that are made up of villages and boroughs. How are others handling it? 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