All good advice in this thread. Some extra thoughts based on my merge projects:
- After each merge go through the suggested duplicates list and resolve everything before you do another merge. And look at all the tabs so that you can preserve links to photos, references, notes etc. - If the duplicate list is long, you can always stop and exit the program. It can be a slow process. When you come back you can resume the duplicate resolution process. You can also skip suggestions that need more research and clean out the easy ones first, then come back around again. - Don't make convenient assumptions when resolving duplicates. I had one large family that had two children named Thomas but born in different years get flagged as a potential merge. There was no death date on the first Thomas, but turns out he died an infant and they reused the Thomas name with a later child. It taught me to always check a corroborating source like a BDM site and not just assume there was a typo etc. Overall I do like the way the merge/duplicate resolution process works. The screens are very helpful. You just need to be patient. Regards John Faulks Gmail account On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 6:42 PM Chris Hill <chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com> wrote: > Duplicates could appear for two reasons. > > 1. They are true duplicates, which you should be able to identify by > matching dates and links to other members. > > 2. They are just two people with the same name but with differing date and > no matching links elsewhere. These should not throw up as duplicates unless > they have similar or missing dates. > > One of the reasons for doing this incrementally is that gives you the > chance to go back and change settings to force options 1 or 2 to appear > when you rerun through it. > > Regards > > Chris > > From my Motorola G6+ > > On Sat, 17 Aug 2019, 21:22 Gail Morrow, <olivanna...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Chris and Ian. >> Chris you helped me when I merged but I didn't take the same precautions >> that you and Ian mentioned in this mail. >> I still have that merge but haven't used it, am still operating on my >> eight files. >> I should re-read all the advice and try again. The problem was all the >> same names, so many, now I know I can handle them incrementally. I will >> keep you both updated on whatever transpires in this field. >> So lovely to have help so readily available. >> >> Gail Morrow >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:45 PM Ian Macaulay <macau...@icmac.ca> wrote: >> >>> And be very careful, Watch the dates and connections as you merge. I >>> had one just last night two Williams in the same family, same parents >>> different dates. >>> One is probably an error but the point is be careful. >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 2:41 PM Chris Hill <chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> One thing to do when merging the files is to resolve the >>>> duplicates, which the merge should identify as it passes through them, >>>> during the merge process so that you can actually combine them into a >>>> single person, selecting which data you want from the pair. That way the >>>> new file will not have duplicates. Each merge may through up additional >>>> duplicates but if your original data was reasonably accurate you should >>>> find that the duplicates are easy to resolve. >>>> >>>> I have done this merging two trees from my cousin for her parent's >>>> lines into my master tree for the entire family. Basically, her mother's >>>> line was a duplicate of mine and a large part of her father's was already >>>> in mine. It was just a case of going through the duplicates as the merge >>>> through them up. Probably took a few days - one tree per day, plus restarts >>>> if you go wrong, so take backups after each merge so that you can step >>>> back. >>>> >>>> But do not try to just merge them and then try to sort out the >>>> duplicates. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Chris >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "Gail Morrow" <olivanna...@gmail.com> >>>> To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >>>> Sent: 16/08/2019 18:51:16 >>>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing Up Family File >>>> >>>> Thanks Cindy and Jenny: >>>> I will take all your advice to heart, the videos are a good idea as >>>> well. >>>> The merge I did was successful and I saved it, but am not using it as >>>> there are so many >>>> people with the same first and last names that it will take a long time >>>> to decide which ones >>>> are now in the one file many times over. >>>> >>>> Gail Morrow >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >>>> Virus-free. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >>>> <#m_-3948140169935886341_m_-7258813593738229950_m_-6920595256014138999_m_1810868206033239085_m_6842304506773037649_m_3171989439192192881_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 3:08 PM magnoliasouth <magnoliaso...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> For some reason, I cannot see the original post, just Jenny's reply >>>>> and a snippet of the original in her reply. >>>>> >>>>> I would say that if you want to merge them and it didn't work, perhaps >>>>> you should figure that out first. IF that's what you really want to >>>>> do, keyword: IF. I tried looking for a good video, but 'merging files' >>>>> comes up with zero results. Maybe someone on the list know of a good >>>>> video. I am a visual learner so videos are best for me, but not >>>>> always. >>>>> >>>>> There are two short pages and one longer one that may be helpful. I >>>>> would suggest reading them in the following order, so you do not >>>>> become overwhelmed. Take your time and play with some dummy files >>>>> before doing it. Legacy comes with a dummy file and you can use that >>>>> to merge some of your family so you can figure out how it works. >>>>> >>>>> One tip: Create a NEW family file. Duplicate the other 8 files (yes, I >>>>> know, lots of extra files, but this saves the original 8 files >>>>> unblemished). Now merge Duplicate 1 into the NEW file. Then repeat >>>>> with the other 7 files. Does that make sense? My personal rule is to >>>>> NEVER merge an original file into another original file. Always use a >>>>> NEW file and duplicates. This way if there is an error, you can simply >>>>> start over with step one again without any loss of data or wrong >>>>> people being merged. >>>>> >>>>> I will warn you, it is quite the task, especially if each file >>>>> contains a large number of people with similar names. Mine does, so it >>>>> takes very careful merging. >>>>> >>>>> 1. >>>>> https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2018/05/tuesdays-tip-merging-files-advanced.html >>>>> >>>>> 2. >>>>> https://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/2009/05/legacy-tip-how-to-combine-multiple-family-files-into-one.html >>>>> >>>>> 3. https://legacyfamilytree.com/TourMerge.asp >>>>> >>>>> You may want to submit a suggestion for a video on this, here: >>>>> https://familytreewebinars.com/suggest.php?val=merging%20files >>>>> >>>>> On the subject of backups, if you don't subscribe to the media backup >>>>> it's just text so should only take a few minutes. If you backup your >>>>> media and you have a LOT of media, like I do (but I do not subscribe >>>>> to media backups, I use Google for that), then it will take a very >>>>> long time, just like Google does. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck and we're here for you, if you have problems. >>>>> >>>>> Cindy Lloyd >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 9:34 AM Jenny M Benson <ge...@cedarbank.me.uk> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > I have eight different Family Files, the merge I tried didn't >>>>> work for >>>>> > > me so I am still faced with backing up eight families each time >>>>> and that >>>>> > > is time consuming. >>>>> > > Is there any way to backup all eight at once? >>>>> > >>>>> > Do you really need to back up all 8 at once? As a general rule, You >>>>> > only need to back up a file when you have made changes to it. >>>>> > >>>>> > And how long does it take to backup? I just backed up my family file >>>>> > (admittedly, not media also) and it took considerably less than a >>>>> minute. >>>>> > >>>>> > But apart from those observations I don't have an answer to your >>>>> > specific question. >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Jenny M Benson >>>>> > http://jennygenes.blogspot.co.uk/ >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > >>>>> > LegacyUserGroup mailing list >>>>> > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >>>>> > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >>>>> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >>>>> > Archives at: >>>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >>>>> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >>>>> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >>>>> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >>>>> Archives at: >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >>>> Virus-free. >>>> www.avast.com >>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >>>> <#m_-3948140169935886341_m_-7258813593738229950_m_-6920595256014138999_m_1810868206033239085_m_6842304506773037649_m_3171989439192192881_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >>>> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >>>> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >>>> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >>>> Archives at: >>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ICMac Sales: Hobby consultant (1986r.) >>> Office hours: 10:00 Am - 5:00 PM most days >>> Macaulay Genealogy >>> Family Matters >>> Ian Macaulay of Carp, Ontario >>> -- >>> >>> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >>> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >>> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >>> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >>> Archives at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >>> >> -- >> >> LegacyUserGroup mailing list >> LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com >> To manage your subscription and unsubscribe >> http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com >> Archives at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >> > -- > > LegacyUserGroup mailing list > LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com > To manage your subscription and unsubscribe > http://legacyusers.com/mailman/listinfo/legacyusergroup_legacyusers.com > Archives at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ >
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