On Mar 25, 2005, at 8:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:39:00 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
In your case, what does this mean that you can't get a "formal agreement" from the legal dept? Is that related to your employment contract / agreement? Does this mean that there are rights that they hold and don't want to give up? Or does it mean that our CCLA is too broad/narrow/wrong/whatever? (I've heard feedback about our CCLA to that end...)
Is there some other kind of document we could create to help this?
It is very simple: My work for the ASF isn't recognized well. My boss would definitely prefer me to play soccer or do whatever in my spare time, but not write software, which could potentially spread know how to the outside world. They accept it, that's all. But *help* me by *formally signing* a document, that doesn't pay a single cent to the company? Why should they?
What makes you feel protected? Suppose you had a change of management, or your boss wins the lottery and retires... What prevents new management from coming after you and the ASF codebases you contribute to because you have no permission?
I'm not trying to paint doomsday scenarios, and I fully understand the sort of pain one has to go through for this.
And I do understand that there's a balance we have to strike between our interest in protection with our interest in maximizing participation. We may make the judgment call that we're willing to risk to enable you to participate (which is effectively where we are now...)
I just see, through my involvement with the EC of the JCP, an ever increasing awareness in the risks of employee participation and contribution in the JCP spec process, and the work that companies are doing to protect both themselves, and the specs that they have an interest in.
-- Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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