Tordanik wrote: > Currently, we offer reasonable terms to good guys. Bad guys might > be able to squeeze out a bit more in some jurisdictions if they can > live with bad press and severed community ties. > > That doesn't happen a lot, though - as far as I can tell - and the > possibility just doesn't bother me enough to let me prefer a solution > like ODbL-only that makes life harder for the good guys, too.
I couldn't disagree more. I see plenty of bad guys taking advantage of OSM. I've catalogued elsewhere how OSM is being used without attribution, without share-alike, all the time. I only have to walk down to our village station to see an example of an OSM map being used improperly. They don't even realise there _is_ a community to sever ties with. I'm a good guy, I'd hope; I've given years of my life to OSM, and contributed a lot to the community (hardcore JOSM users may see fit to disagree ;) ). Despite that OSM offers nothing to me, because CC-BY-SA's share-alike clause is defined in relation to creative works, not to data. That means my particular niche (hand-drawn, highly specialised cartography, requiring days of work for a small set of maps) works fine with Ordnance Survey OpenData, but not with OSM. If I were someone writing routing software, whose endeavour is not caught within the arbitrary application of CC-BY-SA share-alike to OSM, I'm sure I'd feel differently. You said "CC-BY-SA is also a license that few current mappers should hate so much that they cannot stand to be part of a project that uses it". For the past three years I've stayed here partly in the hope that we'll move to ODbL, and partly out of inertia because OS OpenData wasn't available three years ago. The day that it's decided that we're staying with CC-BY-SA is the day I quit the project. cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-A-case-for-CT-CC-BY-SA-tp6613895p6616678.html Sent from the Legal Talk mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
