Diane Any comment from CC on the -other- issues that have been raised wrt CC by 4.0 and ODbL compatibility and in general with the way it works for databases?
Simon Am 18.03.2016 um 17:19 schrieb Diane Peters: > Just to be clear on the attribution removal requirement in CC's > licenses, Erik asserted: > > I wish people would stop releasing data with CC-by; "you have to > attribute us, but you have to remove that attribution when ever we > want you too" which is not present in ODbL so.... > > There is no such absolute obligation. In 4.0, the removal requirement > provides: "If requested by the Licensor, You must remove any of the > information required by Section 3(a)(1)(A) > <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/legalcode#s3a1A> to the > extent reasonably practicable." (Sec. 3a3 > <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode>). And in 3.0, > it's "to the extent practicable", which from a CC perspective is > functionally the equivalent (Sec. 4a > <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode>). > > Diane > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Tom Lee <t...@mapbox.com > <mailto:t...@mapbox.com>> wrote: > > Tobias, the best option for ensuring the data is usable by OSM is > an explicit statement of permission for the OpenStreetMap project > to incorporate and use the data under the project's terms. This is > generally considered preferable to a dataset that is ODbL-licensed > without such a statement. > > However, I would encourage you to consider non-OSM users as well > when choosing the license. ODbL is not widely used outside of OSM. > A license like CC-BY 4.0 is more widely used and actively > maintained. Choosing it would ensure compatibility with a large > number of non-OSM datasets. And if paired with a permission > statement like what's described above, OSM could still use the > data without any license compatibility worries. > > Of course, if you can do without attribution, you might consider > something even more simple that disclaims liability but imposes no > other terms. If that's an option let me know and I can turn up > some examples. > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Erik Johansson <erjo...@gmail.com > <mailto:erjo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Tobias Wendorff > <tobias.wendo...@tu-dortmund.de > <mailto:tobias.wendo...@tu-dortmund.de>> wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > could you please recommend me licenses for releasing data to > ODbL? > > From my point of view, compatible licenses are CC-license > without > > "SA" and "BY" and (only if possible) CC0 and PD or finally > special > > license, like the following one: > > > > Some crporations like "Deutsche Bahn" (the biggest rail > corporation > > in Germany) has released their data under CC BY 4.0 with a > special text > > for OpenStreetMap (roughly translated): > > > > "If the data of Deutsche Bahn is part of the OpenStreetMap > database work, > > a reference to the Deutsche Bahn AG in the list of > contributors is enough. > > Crediting DB at each use of the data by a licensee of the > mentioned database > > work is no longer necessary then. Indirect credits (with > reference to the > > publisher of this databse work, which refers to the DB) is > sufficient." > > > > Actually, that's a kind of dual-licensing with a special > license for OSM. > > From my understanding, releasing data ODbL would be the > worst thing, > > since the "BY" attribution of the data donator isn't > compatible, is it? > > > I've choosen not to start on a couple of imports because of > the CC-by > issue, I've gotten ok from the owners but they want to be > included on > http://osm.org/contributors . Deutsche Bahn seems to be much more > free, I interpret it as source=Deutsche Bahn seems to be enough. > > > I wish people would stop releasing data with CC-by; "you have to > attribute us, but you have to remove that attribution when ever we > want you too" which is not present in ODbL so.... > > > > -- > /emj > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org <mailto:legal-talk@openstreetmap.org> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org <mailto:legal-talk@openstreetmap.org> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk > > > > > _______________________________________________ > legal-talk mailing list > legal-talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
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