On Sun, 7 Jul 2013 14:14:22 -0500, Jeremy wrote in message <CAExjShteuOwGzMymhU+C3zdsf44RKTmaviQi=tmdfgwqw3k...@mail.gmail.com>:
> As I am not familiar on ChadGoodman's knowledge of, ..if he knows enough to create a working implementation of exFAT in a non-Microsoft OS, he must be aware of tech details that are covered by Microsoft patent claims. How, is an interesting and discoverable question. ;o) > or possession of, a license to distribute exFAT I will not comment. ..this too, is discoverable. ;o) > I am a member of the staff at XDA-Developers and as such have chosen > to reply to this particular discussion ..my wee nitpick on Jeremy; by "this particular discussion", I guess you meant to refer to the allegations on MikeC84's compliance with the GPLv2, and not to my guess on Chad Goodman's patent etc license etc deals with Microsoft. Your choice of context and addressee around "this particular discussion", left that particularity, construably unclear enough to warrant this wee swat-down, I've seen "SCO" etc litigators abuse much clearer contexts than this, this last decade at Groklaw. ;o) > , though I have followed all of > the discussions involving faux123, chadgoodman, etc. As far as I am > aware, MikeC84 is in compliance with GPLv2. His kernel source, now > found on bitbucket (http://goo.gl/ZTmRe), ..they say "timing is everything..." ;oD : "Scheduled downtime: currently moving data centers" ... "Bitbucket is currently in the middle of moving data centers and will be unavailable up to six hours starting from Sunday, July 07, 2013 at 19:00:00 UTC." > was moved from github > (http://goo.gl/q7U1u), is accurate, complete and developed in the > open. > > We at XDA take the spirit of the GPLv2 another step and require more > transparency on all kernels posted on our forum than the GPLv2 > requires - you can see our global, public statement at XDA-Developers > and the > GPL<http://www.xda-developers.com/android/xda-developers-and-the-gpl/>. > We are unable to police every single post on XDA (40 million posts as > of right now) from our over 5.1 million members - however we have a > nice system whereby users can report issues and our moderator team > will investigate. If after our investigation we find violations of > our Forum Rules or associated copyright law, we will take appropriate > action. We take an impartial stance, and will act in a decisive > manner, when we come in contact with *anyone* who violates the GPLv2 > as we take it very seriously. > > With that being said we, as a conduit, do not deal with vexatious > complaints. Someone complaining to us about UserX's purported > violations of some rule, or blatant trolling or orchestrations of > mass uprisings or "dev wars" will be taken at face value and seen for > what they are. > > You may contact me at any time with regards to GPLv2 issues at XDA as > I am the OEM Relations Manager, Senior Moderator, and on the Developer > Committee. > > > ---- > Jeremy Meiss > OEM Relations, Developer Committee, Senior Moderator > XDA-Developers <http://www.xda-developers.com> > > > > > On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Arnt Karlsen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 14:05:27 -0400, Eric wrote in message > > <[email protected]>: > > > > > Chad can brag all he wants about being the only non-stock kernel > > > with exFAT, but he always conveniently leaves out the fact that > > > the kernel contains proprietary licensed Microsoft modules that > > > cannot be legally distributed. He's not using the open-source > > > exFAT through FUSE or the literally brand new open-source > > > out-of-tree kernel module by rxrz. > > > > ..maybe he has a license from Microsoft? ;o) > > Seriously, what other options are there? > > > > ..exFAT "is proprietary and patent-pending" according to both > > Microsoft and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT , AFAIR exFAT > > was designed to specifically suppress asd prevent GPL etc open > > source development and business on Microsoft-compatible file > > systems. > > > > > I refuse to deal with people who shamelessly promote warez > > > kernels on sites that only allow GPL-compliant binaries, convince > > > their followers to do the same, yet hide the binaries and the > > > yet-to-be-seen-yet-on-a-public-server source code in unregulated > > > portions of the internet where GPL enforcement can't reach. > > > > > > This whole thread was created out of spite and harassment. > > > > > > - Eric Appleman > > > > ..it looks more like Microsoft style litigation tactics. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case.
