On 7/10/2013 9:58 AM, Eric D wrote:
FYI- i sent a mail to this list from Chad's account, as it seems most of my messages are not making it through, besides the one you that was moderated (i removed the message, as im posting this to the list as well) (Yes, I know Chad and I am his neighbor and friend)

So - It is ok that when someone else that has no connection to Chad is discussed, that people be allowed to bash Chad and re-direct the topic back to Chad. But when a clear violation is posted (sebastianfm for example) - people from this list say they dont really care (in not so many words)

Im sorry, but it seems as if this should be the "bash Chad mailing list" - and It wasnt just Chad's side that spammed this list, it was Eric Appleman's side as well. Eric Appleman still continues to post lies to this list about Chad and access to his kernel.

If we are going to moderate posts, lets atleast moderate the ones that have no relevance to a legal list, such as bashing Chad...

Thank You....
Eric D
Fun fact: My previous message was rejected and it certainly wasn't the first time. I'll just leave it at that.

If your stuff isn't getting through, take it up with the moderator. If you want to go through my alleged lies point by point, you can always email me privately. I'd gladly do the same with yours.

We took your posts about Mike, Sebastian, and Faux seriously, but it was disingenuous of you to be the messenger while simultaneously bad-mouthing this list elsewhere and wholly avoiding your association with Chad.

Nobody on this list claims to have a perfect understanding of the GPL; we saw as much over the past few months. But your evolving interpretation of the GPL, which I appreciate, is still incompatible with the consensus of this list and the letter of the document. Chad is still the 800 lb gorilla in the room and it seems odd that you and him suddenly want to punish devs that challenge his alleged copyrights and way of doing things. I have no interest in who is or isn't a proven kanger.

I'll put it this way: For every 10 quickly correctable minor violations you find, you're still ignoring the biggest uncorrected one in years. Please learn how to police your own and remember that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

You've had every opportunity to explain how Chad does things differently with his site now (it's still in a draconian-style lockdown) or give a technical explanation of how he uses exfat. Because it seems like nothing has changed. I recall people talking about native speed exfat compared to FUSE and that really stuck in my mind. There is a 10x speed difference. If Chad's been using FUSE all this time, all you have to do is say so or provide a screenshot like Chad likes to do. But then again, FUSE only requires the fuse.ko module and it would be weird to advertise kernel support when the bulk of exfat-over-FUSE work has to be done in the rom. If it were so easy, Steve Kondik and the CyanogenMod maintainers would've done it a long time ago; and yet it only just landed yesterday. I hope Chad doesn't claim he was kanged yet again. As things stand many devs get nervous when they use exfat over FUSE or give instructions on how to use the proprietary modules during compilation. I have no idea what Zeus Kernel is doing but I'm giving you a chance to wow this list. If Chad really built an exfat filesystem driver from scratch, that would be an amazing feat, so why is he so hush-hush about the details beyond always saying (to paraphrase) "Who put non-stock exfat in your hands before anyone else?". I would've expected a blog post detailing how he did it by now like when he figured out the PLL tables.

- Eric Appleman

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