Not mere amusement my friend! This is going to be part of the future of Leo.
Feedback: - Add a "collapse body" ellipsis toggle. I think this will make Leo more friendly to people coming from flat text editors. I think a setting which automatically collapses nodes with empty bodies and somehow visually indicates that the body is not just collapsed, but empty would be useful in Org-mode style outlining. - For hiding the "options" bar add a toggle just to the right of the node headline. - Consider what can be done with themes for this feature. It might be good to introduce a setting to add a "divider" object that is placed between node bodies, for themes which disable borders of the individual edit panes. - I think it will be important to optionally "indent" each body pane to match the tree level. - Getting the scroll bars to behave in a way people find predictable will get tricky when dynamically adding and deleting nodes to the stacked editors. That should get us 90-95% of the way there. Terry, please do not sell this feature short. I think as Edward alluded to in his comment, this can be a killer core feature of Leo's node based outlining. Not only can this make Leo more approachable to new users but it can significantly expand Leo's ability to incorporate new modes of operation (org-mode, Leo as a terminal, Jupyter, etc). I cannot stress enough how important I think this is. On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 3:40:33 PM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote: > > Just for amusement, here's Leo with three body editors, vertically, using > the new edit pane I'm working on. Of course you wouldn't want the controls > showing on each one, but this is just thrown up with the free_layout system > - you'd really want to stack them in a scroll area. Then just do the trick > web pages do to appear to have endless content, delete one from the top and > insert one at the bottom as the user scrolls down, doing the insertions and > deletions off screen. > > [image: Inline image] > Cheers -Terry > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* john lunzer <lun...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > *To:* leo-editor <leo-e...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>> > *Sent:* Friday, February 17, 2017 1:56 PM > *Subject:* Re: Leo 5.5 will challenge org mode > > Really glad to see the idea of multiple body panes is gaining traction. > Along with optionally being able to show the node headlines, as you > suggested, there should also be an option to indent the entire panes to > match the tree indentation. Org-mode has this toggle. > > On Friday, February 17, 2017 at 2:21:56 PM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > In another thread I wrote: > > > Perhaps [ A Brief Summary of Leo <http://leoeditor.com/preface.html>] > should be rewritten in the org-mode intro style, but that's for some other > time. > > Actually, now *is *the time. > > My competitive juices are flowing. The new intro will directly challenge > org mode. It will do this by showing, with numerous examples, why Leo is > *already > *superior to org mode for scientific computation. Scientists can design > there own Leonine sub-outlines that represent computations and operations. > > @button, Leo's API and Leo's DOM, combined with python scripting, are > *much* more convenient and powerful than org-mode. Simplicity and > generality are more important than a org-mode features. Leo most > definitely has the chops to support reproducible research, or any other > buzzword one wants to use. > > Leo 5.5 will have an execute-script-in-common- namespace command. This can > be added with only a few lines of code. It's needed to simulate > pyzo/jupyter/org mode calculations. > > Leo 5.5 will also have a show-drawer command. It will pop up a window > showing a special 'core-drawer' uA. Saving the popup will update the uA. > No need for changes to Leo's body pane. > > Furthermore, Leo is already vastly superior to org mode for software > development, with features like automatic untangle (updating @<file> > nodes), automatic tangle when saving .leo files, clone-find commands, > clones, etc, Heh. Whenever I make this kind of list, I inevitably forget > things. Like @test, @suite, @button, scripting API, etc. etc.! > > So Reinhard's criticisms are bearing fruit. I'll be emphasizing the > problems Leo is designed to solve. These big tasks are Leo's main purpose. > Sure, you can use Leo for keeping track of your record collection. Leo > let's you do simple things simply. But you can also do *complex* things > simply and flexibly. Things like designing a suite of long-running > experiments, documenting them, and ensuring that all code is transparent to > reviewers. Or developing software like Leo itself. All using Python and > its libraries, not elisp and emacs-only libraries. > > I'll be using mostly prose, as I have just done, combined with code > snippets. > > Edward > > P. S. The easy way to simulate org-mode's window, and *improve* upon it, > will be to allow Leo's body pane to contain multiple, *vertically aligned > *panes. Like this: > > Overall body pane: > > pane 1 > ----- (separator) > pane 2 > ----- (separator) > pane 3 > ... > > Users will be able to see the various panes *without* intervening > headlines, although separators may show headlines. Only one of the panes > will be active. It is the "real" body pane. This can be done in a plugin, > I suspect. It will not happen for Leo 5.5, however. > > EKR > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "leo-editor" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to leo-editor+...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to leo-e...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to leo-editor+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to leo-editor@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/leo-editor. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
