On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 19:18, DJ Lucas <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 07/06/2010 03:46 PM, Stuart Stegall wrote:
>> [SNIP]
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>> I think it would be a wise plan.  Someone can of course try converting
>> all the base startup jobs over to systemd.  It might be wise to
>> mention upstart/systemd now that it looks as though most of the
>> distros other than openSUSE are at the least going to be on to
>> something else.
>
> What advantage do the alternatives give us?  I seen something about
> event driven...sounds complicated.  As they are now, things are quite
> simple, with the most difficult task being keeping track of the links
> (which I've been working on automating following the LSB standard).  Do
> scripts contain dependency information?  If so, how about using the LSB
> comment blocks directly to kill two birds with one stone?  You mentioned
> event driven scripts?  How do they work?  How are events generated and
> interpreted?  I'm assuming another daemon must be running.  Do client
> apps needing services also have to be compiled with support, or is there
> something akin to inetd/xinetd running the show?  Lots of questions
> unanswered so far.
>
> A proof of concept would be the best way to start.  At this point, the
> "advantages" haven't been explained, and I have no interest in reading
> some dry documentation without some expected advantage.  Give me that
> "WOW" feature that makes me want to read, and I will.
>
> The best way to do that, and to gain an understanding of it at the same
> time so that *you* can answer questions, is to do the leg work to prove
> to all (yourself included) that one of the alternatives is better than
> the current boot process.  We have a wiki available for your use.  The
> hints site is also still around if you prefer plain text.  You could
> also host instructions on your own website with a link sent to the list,
> or even just send a text step by step to the list. As long as the
> advantages *and* *disadvantages* are covered we'll take a look.  OTOH,
> don't bother sending in anything if you can't objectively list
> disadvantages as well as advantages, as nothing is without flaw.
>

This is why I would put these new implementations of SysVinit into
BLFS at first.
You don't really know what dependencies they might bring with them yet.

> HTH
>
> - -- DJ Lucas
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