On Monday 30 January 2012 12:35:54 pm Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Baho Utot wrote: > > On Sunday 29 January 2012 10:46:19 pm Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> Sigh. > >> > >> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTA0OTY > >> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge > >> > >> -- Bruce > > > > I believe LFS is now working in this direction???? > > Not yet. > > > Myth #8: The /usr merge will break my old installation which has /usr on > > a separate partition. > > > > > > Fact: This is perfectly well supported, and one of the reasons we are > > actually doing this is to make placing /usr of a separate partition more > > thorough. What changes is simply that you need to boot with an initrd > > that mounts /usr before jumping into the root file system. Most > > distributions rely on initrds anyway, so effectively little changes. > > and we disable those that don't like it.
OK > > > What where you saying about initramfs not being needed ;^) > > I have been thinking about this quite a bit. I believe upstream has > lost it's way. One of the principles of Unix was always to keep things > simple. The reason that we have a separate /bin /sbin /lib is so that > other partitions can be mounted without all the overhead in /usr. Now > that same capability is, for some reason, being moved to initramfs where > there is a duplication of packages, and a large decrease in transparency > and and an associated increase in complexity. > Yes I agree. This is the biggest reason I am moving from other distros to LFS. I like what LFS is. I like the "old unix" ways. This split package and dependency _HELL_ is not good. The only thing that I would like see "added" to LFS is lvm/raid/encrypted root systems and maybe KVM. I think everything is the more or less covered. > Why? Just because something can be done, doesn't mean that it should be > done. > No it means it _shouldn't_ be done ;) > systemd is another instance of the same symptom. Instead of a few > relatively simple scripts and a very simple init, we have a large opaque > monstrosity. I see nothing of value in systemd. > > All this seems to be a product of "we are in charge, we'll do what we > want" attitude. Just make the changes and everybody will follow. We > are going away from community and towards an oligopoly to the ruin of > open source. > > -- Bruce I think this concept is one of all/most the old farts are moving on...to be taken over by the youngens who are now thinking that they are the masters when thye haven't a clue for history. I will take the ways of unix from the 70's, It is that way for many _good_ reasons. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page