On Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:22:19 -0700 Bradley O'Hearne <br...@bighillsoftware.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 30, 2014, at 5:11 AM, Nicolas George <geo...@nsup.org> wrote: > > > In that regard, writing a mail with bad spelling, bad typo or bad overall > > presentation is rude, just as speaking to someone while chewing gum is rude. > > Interesting explanation. When I was getting flamed repeatedly for providing > very thorough and detailed explanation of things I was seeing and made the > mere suggestion that there might be a problem in Libav, with a complete, > runnable app and source code to support it, I was given the explanation that > because some of the list members, including some of the devs, didn’t have a > mastery of the English language, and therefore didn’t care to read anything > longer than a couple of sentences, and thus my posts were annoying. It sounds > like definition of what is “rude” is conveniently pliable. They don't present all of the devs. They're merely a vocal minority. Trying to fight them is pretty much pointless too. > So tell me, if a “bad typo or bad overall presentation is rude”, how about > harboring an annoyance at someone who actually *does* speak the language of > the mailing list, simply because you don’t very well — does that qualify as > “rude”? Does giving someone flak for posting more than a few sentences > quality as rude? How about a libav dev continuing to call a poster a “troll” > because he doesn’t like the behavior a poster claims to be seeing? How far > below top-posting does that rank on the “rude” scale? > > Casting aside the fact that top-posting isn’t necessarily the most readable, > standard, or efficient response format, none of this is even the point. > There’s no need to hit every new poster who comes to the mailing list with a > big “you are rude” label. Do you do that to visitors to your house — invite > them in then tell them they are rude for not leaving their shoes on the > doorstep, or hanging their coat on exactly the right hook? The point is that > hitting every new person who comes along with that is far more rude than > whatever idiosyncrasy they stepped on with their inadvertent text formatting. > It is a willful choice in how to handle things and converse with people, and > it doesn’t really matter what the format — there’s a clear difference between > answering someone’s question and appending: > > “..hey, I know you are new, so welcome to the list, but for future reference, > check out the posting guidelines at [link], it will really help readability..” > > and this: > > “Don’t top-post, it is rude….and you are doubly rude for not reading the list > guidelines.” > > Everyone knows the difference, and everyone knows the attitude from which > each of those derive, and what it communicates to the person on the other > end. It is nothing more than a choice about whether to do that or not. And if > you don’t want to take the time to type it, there’s this great new thing > called cut-and-paste which really speeds the process. > > Brad _______________________________________________ Libav-user mailing list Libav-user@ffmpeg.org http://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/libav-user
