Mashable says it's 8 Google pages in: http://mashable.com/2012/07/30/twitter-journalist-suspended/
Twitter's rules contain this sentence: *If information was previously posted or displayed elsewhere on the Internet prior to being put on Twitter, it is not a violation of this policy.* * * If Twitter wants to remove that sentence from their rules, that's their prerogative, but until they do, they're full of it on this one. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Simon Phipps <webm...@gmail.com> wrote: > Where is Zenkel's e-mail on that page? I've yet to see a report that > substantiates it was easy to locate on the web prior to this incident. > > But more to the point, Twitter appears to be coming clean here. Their > policy says a bona fides complaint is met with preventative suspension, > followed by reinstatement after review and, if necessary, assurances. For > an organisation dealing with approximately infinite transaction levels, > that seems about the only workable policy. > > In this case they assert that their NBC-attached team acted incorrectly by > proactively reviewing traffic. They also imply that, had the Trust and > Safety team been advised how the complaint arose, they would likely have > acted differently. They have apologised for what they did wrong, left > themselves free to continue to follow their (probably correct) policy and > avoided commenting on the journalist's actual (borderline) behaviour. > > Since I don't see it in the thread below, here's Twitter's apology, which > is worth reading & re-reading to get the implications as well as the > details: > http://blog.twitter.com/2012/07/our-approach-to-trust-safety-and.html > > S. > > > On 31 Jul 2012, at 21:24, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi Jillian, > > > > Thanks for explaining the details. Pardon my language but...FFS. This is > disgraceful. > > > > Adams used publicly available information like this: > http://www.linkedin.com/pub/gary-zenkel/3/569/126 and Twitter closed his > account? > > > > In which case, if I were Adams, I would release my legal attack hounds, > and sue Twitter under what ever legislation they could. Anyone from the > EFF Legal want to comment? > > > > That is disgraceful. Another example of why I believe Twitters > self-censorship "internal struggle" earlier this year was an easy out for > them. > > > > I hope Adams doesn't take the usual "we're sorry" excuse thats trotted > out. > > > > Bernard > > > > On 31 Jul 2012, at 16:13, Jillian C. York wrote: > > > >> Bernard, > >> > >> Twitter's explanation was not that the statement was defamatory, but > that Adams had posted private information. The email address he posted, > however, is not private: it is available on NBC.com. That's the entire > case. > >> > >> -Jillian > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Bernard Tyers - ei8fdb < > ei8...@ei8fdb.org> wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> > >> (Slightly devil's advocate/contrarian POV) > >> > >> Interesting story, and Adams probably has a case but it never ceases to > amaze me when people disconnect their "real world" brains from their > "Internet" brains. > >> > >> I would be the first person to complain if someone's free-speech was > taken away, however, if Adams has said anything defamatory in his Twitter > stream, then he is still bound by "real world" laws. > >> > >> Just because I say something defamatory or libellous about person X on > the Internet, doesn't mean that *IF* it's found that a "real-world" legal > process cannot be executed. > >> > >> Most people using the Internet may not understand that, but I would > have expected journalists to understand it. > >> > >> Is it illegal to suspend someones services for naming an executive of a > media company for doing XYZ in the USA? I have no idea. > >> > >> If it is illegal, then people need to speak out against a ridiculously > brain-dead law. > >> > >> If it is not illegal, people need to complain to Twitter for freedom of > speech. Twitter need to rewind their equally brain-dead actions and > apologise to the guy. > >> > >> Now, if he has said nothing "illegal" on Twitter, then IMHO, fire up > the legal drones Guy. This I unfortunately have direct experience of. At > this point it becomes (certainly in parts of Europe) a case of "who's got > the bigger legal team". > >> > >> (My reasoning comes from Bruce Schneier's argument on laws specific to > "cybercrimes". To paraphrase "Prosecution can be difficult in cyberspace. > On one hand the crimes are the same.....The laws against certain practices, > complete with criminal justice infrastructure to enforce them, are already > in place....Fraud is fraud, whether it takes place over the US mail or the > Internet.") > >> > >> > >> On 31 Jul 2012, at 00:17, David Johnson wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--critic-of-nbc-has-twitter-account-suspended-after-network-complains.html > >>> > >>> -- > >>> David V. Johnson > >>> Web Editor > >>> Boston Review > >>> Website: http://www.bostonreview.net > >>> > >>> Twitter: > >>> http://twitter.com/BostonReview > >>> Tumblr: http://bostonreview.tumblr.com > >>> > >>> Cell: (917)903-3706 > >>> > > -- *+1-857-891-4244 |** jilliancyork.com | @jilliancyork * "We must not be afraid of dreaming the seemingly impossible if we want the seemingly impossible to become a reality" - *Vaclav Havel*
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