Micah Lee: > On 02/22/2013 02:06 PM, Jacob Appelbaum wrote: >> The Opt-out strategy is useful. The question is - how does it make >> Ubuntu safer or more privacy preserving? For example - what if we were >> able to make a privacy preserving version that was also reasonably >> secure and everyone was happy? Perhaps one where people might even be >> able to opt-out of the privacy enhancements? >> >> I'd be fine with such a choice - I don't feel like it is a lost cause >> either, I think it is, if anything, a lot of work. Who is more likely to >> experiment in this space? It isn't Apple, it isn't Microsoft, it isn't a >> lot of Free Software projects; Ubuntu could really improve on their >> privacy in a way that few others are able to do and in doing so, they'd >> find a privacy preserving way to make a profit with the consent of those >> involved. >> >> I think the first step is to design such a thing, encourage people to >> use it and then to show those who are skeptical that the work is done. >> Now, if they say no, yes, I agree - time to consider it a lost cause. >> Such a dialog hasn't happened and as a result, I think it is too early >> to quit. >> >> All the best, >> Jacob > > Ubuntu has said that they won't disable online search by default.
Will they ensure it always traverses the network with HTTPS, with SSL certs/CA material pinned? Will they always support connections from the Tor network? > > However, they do make it really simple for users to turn it off in the > settings, and I believe they're working on making the privacy settings > have more options, letting you turn off online search directly from dash > (a "private mode"), and things like that. Seems like a good step forward. > > I think it's possible to create the kind of usability they want to > create and also protect privacy. They haven't gotten there yet > obviously, and so far haven't been responsive to criticism. But I'll > still keep an open mind and hope that they eventually come up with > something great. Until that happens I'm using Debian. > If we merely wait for them to find solutions in a problem space they hardly understand, they will likely produce an outcome that makes everyone unhappy. All the best, Jake -- Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password at: https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
