BTW, today's daily sage from "the end of the world " - Argentina:

Quinientos treinta y seis by eltopoerudito

No hay secretos sino malos inquisidores

There are no secrets: just lousy inquisitors.
On Apr 19, 2013 5:54 AM, "Andrés Leopoldo Pacheco Sanfuentes" <
alps6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> According to research coming from the Southern Poverty Law Center, one of
> the sources of "domestic terrorism" - not "the arab kind" - has been
> alarmingly on the increase: hate & extremist groups!
>
> http://www.splcenter.org/what-we-do/hate-and-extremism
>
> BTW, I read recently that all this government video-surveillance is one of
> the "boom industries" in China. Now US companies would be able to sell
> their "tried & true" technologies to your "friendly local police".
>
> CISPA may be seen as just "Internet surveillance on the cheap", without
> the need for additional public investment. Same justification as
> video-surveillance.
> On Apr 18, 2013 11:46 PM, "Julian Oliver" <jul...@julianoliver.com> wrote:
>
>> ..on Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 05:27:35PM -0700, Yosem Companys wrote:
>> > From: Lauren Weinstein <lau...@vortex.com>
>> >
>> > And right on cue, the flush our civil liberties down the toilet boys
>> > rear their ugly heads
>> >
>> > "We Need More Cameras, and We Need Them Now"
>> >
>> > http://j.mp/14A4fY1  (Slate)
>> >
>> >    "Cities under the threat of terrorist attack should install networks
>> of
>> >     cameras to monitor everything that happens at vulnerable urban
>> >     installations. Yes, you don't like to be watched. Neither do I. But
>> of
>> >     all the measures we might consider to improve security in an age of
>> >     terrorism, installing surveillance cameras everywhere may be the
>> best
>> >     choice. They're cheap, less intrusive than many physical security
>> >     systems, and-as will hopefully be the case with the Boston
>> >     bombing-they can be extremely effective at solving crimes."
>> >
>> >  - - -
>> >
>> > This kind of misguided and factually vacuous proposal is more
>> > dangerous to freedom than all the terrorism on the planet.
>> >
>>
>> ... and at worst breeds violent frustration at home, as people feel
>> increasingly
>> unable to engage elected civil administrators in transformative
>> conversation
>> about these issues. People /feel/ threatened by impositions such as these
>> for a
>> reason - I've had two conversations of the sort here in Buffalo within as
>> many
>> days of arrival.  These locals feel their own government no longer
>> defends their
>> basic human right to privacy (as if today's CISPA vote wasn't harsh
>> enough).
>>
>> Regardless, it's worth noting the U.S has seen steady decline of
>> terrorism on
>> home soil since 1970. Curious that the general opinion is that terrorism
>> is on
>> the rise here:
>>
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/04/16/us/Decades-of-Decline-in-Attacks.html?ref=us&_r=0
>>
>> Who knows how long that will last, given the increasing conscription to Al
>> Qaeda, or any armed resistance, as direct result of drone attacks on
>> sovereign
>> soil abroad.
>>
>> Here's the case of Yemen alone, a country that (like Pakistan and
>> Somalia) the
>> U.S isn't actually at war with:
>>
>> “These attacks are making people say, ‘We believe now that al-Qaeda is on
>> the
>> right side,’ ” said businessman Salim al-Barakani, adding that his two
>> brothers
>> — one a teacher, the other a cellphone repairman — were killed in a U.S.
>> strike
>> in March."
>>
>>
>> http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012-05-29/world/35456187_1_aqap-drone-strikes-qaeda
>>
>> You can call the Yemeni tribesmen referenced in the article 'terrorists'
>> as a
>> result of their conscription. You can also call them very frustrated and
>> desperate people whose children are terrified of the U.S and can't sleep
>> due to
>> the buzzing - and statistically inaccurate - killing machines flying
>> above their
>> homes.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> --
>> Julian Oliver
>> http://julianoliver.com
>> http://criticalengineering.org
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