I guess the question is still, is it just them using the already existing API's or do they have colocated sniffing tools?
-Andrew On Jun 9, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Trevor Timm <tre...@eff.org> wrote: > From the Washington Post, just published: > > "Intelligence community sources said that this description, although > inaccurate from a technical perspective, matches the experience of analysts > at the NSA. From their workstations anywhere in the world, government > employees cleared for PRISM access may “task” the system and receive results > from an Internet company without further interaction with the company’s > staff." > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-company-officials-internet-surveillance-does-not-indiscriminately-mine-data/2013/06/08/5b3bb234-d07d-11e2-9f1a-1a7cdee20287_print.html > > > On 6/8/13 8:10 PM, x z wrote: >> 2013/6/8 Jacob Appelbaum <ja...@appelbaum.net> >> Oh man, Glenn Greenwald is my hero and a hero to us all. >> >> Do you still believe Glenn's reporting that NSA has "direct access to >> servers of firms including Google, Apple and Facebook"? In my view, he >> misled the world intentionally (the few prism training slides published did >> not seem to claim this). Glenn is at best a wacky journalist without common >> sense. >> >> His reporting on the Verizon case was good, but I think his credibility >> bankrupted after the PRISM one. >> >> Everyone on >> this list who was looking for 'some evidence' about global surveillance >> and previously ignored all other evidence, well, here you go! >> >> "Revealed: The NSA's powerful tool for cataloguing data – including >> figures on US collection" >> >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-informant-global-datamining >> >> This screenshot from the program is very web 2.0: >> >> >> http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2013/6/8/1370715185657/boundless-heatmap-large-001.jpg >> >> The NSA is spying on the US and on the rest of the planet. There is no >> ability to deny this anymore. Anyone who denies it is a complete moron. >> >> I don't understand why this "evidence" is significant in any way. NSA >> certainly has lots of information, and a web2.0'ish tool is nothing >> surprising. It's rather moot to state "anyone who denies it is a complete >> moron". It's like the highway patrol keeping my driving record. >> >> Again, I'm not rooting for NSA. I think its power need to be limited and it >> needs more transparency. But I hate using misinformation or hyperbole to >> achieve that goal. This hurts the credibility of all the pro-privacy groups >> in general. >> >> All the best, >> Jacob >> -- >> Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by >> emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech >> >> >> >> -- >> Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by >> emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at >> https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech > > -- > Trevor Timm > Activist > Electronic Frontier Foundation > (415) 436 9333 ex. 104 > https://eff.org/join > -- > Too many emails? Unsubscribe, change to digest, or change password by > emailing moderator at compa...@stanford.edu or changing your settings at > https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/liberationtech
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